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[–]Jaco2point0 6982 points6983 points  (188 children)

We called you for your expert opinion, but when it didn’t conform to what we wanted we ignored it.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 4050 points4051 points  (74 children)

Dude exactly. They wanted our opinions on it, but in the end these guys were gonna launch it regardless of what we thought.

[–]Sea_Werewolf_251at work 1627 points1628 points  (33 children)

And when sales plummet, you can say, this potential outcome was previously identified

[–]Zestyclose-Ring7303 1293 points1294 points  (21 children)

When sales plummet, they'll fire several lower-tiered employees and claim "action has been taken."

[–]RandoCommentGuy 463 points464 points  (16 children)

and up the fat and sugar content of the dressing (with HFCS and Soybean oil!!!)

[–]WonderfulShelter 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lol at our company the heads of it just overextended themselves on a huge deal, are now devoting 90% of company resources and having us all do things outside our job description and even set these insane lofty targets that were impossible if you did the math.

They wanted 300,000 of something made and packaged. We have 2-4 people packaging. One person can get one box (30 things) inspected and packed in a minute - so thats 10,000 minutes (170ish hours) total. 21-24 hours each day for all hands packing. That means 8-9 days to get it done.

They wanted it all done in 4 days. Now that it didn't and we missed the target, they're punishing all the lower tier employees - which are the ones bailing them out and packing everything.

[–]RedTheRobot 204 points205 points  (0 children)

Won’t matter, ceo will sell the company to the highest bidder because he tanked the product. Then he will walk away with a golden pay package. All while ops new owners will fire half the staff because they need to cut costs and the only reason they bought the company was to take the brand name and slap on their product label. But hey at least they will have the knowledge that they were right.

My advice is for OP is to jump ship. It might year or two or more that the company sells itself but it is going to happen. Your best bet is to find another job before that way you are in control of the situation.

[–]cittidude2 65 points66 points  (2 children)

But the CEO will make a statement saying "I take full responsibility!" after announcing the job cuts.

[–]plastigoop 41 points42 points  (0 children)

And a giant bonus

[–]Earthmanlives 197 points198 points  (0 children)

It must be the Millenials, they've canceled our dressing!

[–]fielausm 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Professionally: 

”You’ll find that this outcome was predicated by our initial review.” 

[–]SquirellyMofo 283 points284 points  (6 children)

This is the problem with infinite growth. Once you saturated your market you cut costs internally.

[–]O_o-22 176 points177 points  (3 children)

And it’s so stupid. The business types think we can keep growing because the population keeps growing. But when that plateau is inevitably reached they don’t want to accept it. Cancer does this too, until the person dies. Or in this case the product. Capitalism is fucking dumb sometimes.

[–]thisisstupidplz 88 points89 points  (2 children)

They don't actually think this. They know capitalism naturally comes with cycles of booms and busts.

They've just become too big to fail and they know if the federal government doesn't bail them out the whole country goes into a depression. The wealthy don't care about anything long term anymore because whether the economy is doing good or bad they'll still be robbing the working class blind.

[–]Punty-chan 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Business Ethics 101: "Morals are a joke. Don't hate the player, hate the game, and the game is rigged."

I'm not even joking. They literally teach this in the very first year.

[–]navylostboy 137 points138 points  (6 children)

Month one: look at all the money we made from cost cutting

Month two: what are sales down, now we need to cut staffing to save money

Month three: now we need to close stores that are underperforming and for some reason understaffed

[–]kex 78 points79 points  (5 children)

That's private equity 101

Next you load them up a bunch of debt before declaring bankruptcy

[–]FallOutShelterBoy 32 points33 points  (0 children)

“Please taste this, tell us how great we are, and accept a pay cut so we can continue to make record profits. Now get back to work!”

[–]litlphoot 59 points60 points  (0 children)

But you should feel valued because they asked for your opinion. /s

[–]goamash 363 points364 points  (13 children)

My petty ass has gotten in trouble for clapping back when it goes wrong after that.

My former boss told me not to stir the pot, but when you've asked me my opinion the last 10 times, I've advised you not to do something because you will lose money on it (and I had data in hand $200k/ project on average), we lose money, and then I would still get blamed - fork that.

I point blank told my former VP that last time that while it's his call, I will tell him I told him so and it'd be to the tune of at least $400k on that particular project. They laughed and chose to proceed with the bonehead maneuver. Low and behold, it happens and I start getting leaned in to over it and I said no, pulled the email I sent to remind them I advised against and said I told you so.

While no one could actually fault me for the decision because I had the receipts, I "took it too far" by saying I told you so. Delighted to not work there anymore.

[–][deleted] 118 points119 points  (3 children)

Not a team player! You only had one simple job - to take one for the team - and you couldn't step up to do that. I don't think you are a good fit for this team unless there's a radical change of attitude Mr Goamash.

[–]AllRushMixTapes 20 points21 points  (2 children)

"Now excuse me while I go on LinkedIn and talk about how our company's commitment to quality and strong family atmosphere are the keys to our success."

[–]JanxAngel 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Its like training a toddler. If they don't understand why there are consequences they never learn to stop doing stupid shit. If no one tells them how they fucked up when they've obviously forgotten how will they know?

[–]xisonc 270 points271 points  (39 children)

Kraft changed their Mac & Cheese in 2016 (KD for my fellow Canadians). They claimed that "nobody noticed" (source

Oh I noticed. I haven't purchased it since. It tastes like nicotine and it's absolutely vile.

[–]LavenderandLamb 93 points94 points  (14 children)

so that's why it tastes like grated crayon powder!

i usually have to season it with other spices to make it taste good

[–]Anarchist_Rat_Swarm 108 points109 points  (12 children)

At that point, you might as well just buy the pasta and make your own sauce.

[–]night_owl 45 points46 points  (5 children)

you can buy containers of the cheese powder, it is pretty cheap too—like $15 per pound

Literally the only inconvenience is that you have measure the cheese powder instead of single-serving pouches

The quality is better (and you can customize to your taste) at les than half of the price when all is said and done.

[–]EatLard 25 points26 points  (2 children)

You can also buy cheese and sodium citrate (super cheap on Amazon) to make sauce from the real cheese of your choice. You just need cheese, a liquid like milk or broth, and a tiny amount of sodium citrate to make the easiest cheese sauce ever.

[–]NarwhalPrudent6323 55 points56 points  (2 children)

To me it tastes like the stale, twenty year old KD you found at your Grandma's while desperately searching for something to eat one day. 

It's kinda like of cheese sticks phoned it in, then pretended they were cardboard. 

[–]Raregolddragon 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Dead gods I am not crazy I knew something change.

[–]Analyzer9 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Annies is closer to real KFM than the things they sell now, for fucks sake

[–]nottodayoilyjosh 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Also here to stan for Annie’s. My kids said they liked it better and I, the purist said KD or bust and lo and behold I was wrong. Annie’s all the way.

[–]LimpRain29 13 points14 points  (2 children)

That's amazing, that's around when we stopped buying Kraft and started just making our own with real cheese. We had no idea the recipe changed, we just kinda decided it was gross and industrial "tasting", but figured our tastes had just changed over time.

[–]hobopwnzor 140 points141 points  (9 children)

Most of consulting tbh.

They hire stars out of college, expect them to be able to do any job to the degree you would pay a premium. Why hire somebody with no experience to do a highly technical job? The companies rarely care about the recommendation. It's about shifting blame if it fails.

[–]ThrowawayLDS_7gen 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Yup. The CYA principle. Cover your ass.

[–]night_owl 42 points43 points  (5 children)

I worked at a non-profit org that relied on outside consultants for every tough decision because none of the "leadership" wanted to be accountable for telling people things they didn't want to hear (like the truth).

They did annual surveys, and always asked "what can we do BESIDES INCREASE PAY to improve job satisfaction?" and the #1 reply was always a write-in variation of "increase pay" (e.g. "less focus on expanding new to sites and more focus on retaining quality staff")

Finally, after several years of this routine (and lame-ass department pizza parties/potlucks) they decided they needed to act to silence the complainers. They announced they were going to hire an outside salary consultant to advise on the pay structure and they promised they'd adhere to the results, so it was heavily implied they would be raising wages after the results came in.

Well nearly a year goes by and finally it is reported that the the consultants determined our pay was considered "competitive" for our industry and region, so there would be no blanket raises this year.

It as plainly obvious that they paid these consultants thousands of dollars just to be deliverers of bad news. It seemed like all they did was look at salary data and compare to public data about wages from the Dept of Labor. Something that anyone in HR could have done (and I did myself, just out of curiousity). This is the same thing that every other similar clinic already does—and why every single position at every other clinic in the county pays the exact same slight-over-min. wage median rate. There is insane divergence to the mean because everyone uses the same "competitive" metric, it is effectively de facto collusion to depress wages.

But the other real reason for the big ruse is that it gives cover to the exec. director who was now like, "Sorry guys, I wish I could give raises to everyone but the mean old bean counters on the board of directors said we have to stay competitive!"

[–]Anaxamenes 70 points71 points  (11 children)

This is every consultant report I have ever seen. Pay lots of money and executives ignore everything.

[–]blaspheminCapn 44 points45 points  (6 children)

Kind of like Bar Rescue - and then the dumbass owner goes right back to their stupid ways, and are all surprised Pikachu when they're out of business at the credits.

[–]Anaxamenes 23 points24 points  (3 children)

It’s actually pretty common. People want to be right, they don’t want to get to the right answer, they want their answer to be right, it’s a pride thing. But many times, they are wrong and it ruins everything because they refuse to change.

[–]Faerbera 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I call that being an askhole. Pretend you care by asking for input, but forgetting everyone’s input and deciding solo.

[–]italyqt 25 points26 points  (0 children)

We had a whole session asking everyone’s opinion on something, not a single person in that session agreed to the new way. Two days later “we are implementing this new way.”

[–]a_Vertigo_Guy 28 points29 points  (0 children)

My boss did the exact same thing saying “thank you everyone for your input. But I’m going to go with what my original plan was.”

You wasted both your time and ours 😒

[–]frogmicky 19 points20 points  (3 children)

You know how many times I've been asked for my opinion and the complete opposite happens too many times.

[–]Attygalle 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I work long enough to know this happens all the time and yet I’m stupid enough to still get irritated about it.

I do call them out on it. “Why did you ask me when you clearly don’t plan to do anything with my input?”. My manager has my back as long as I stay polite.

[–]skaarlaw 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Exactly what happened to Professor David Nutt

[–]Febris 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We called you for your expert opinion, but when it didn’t conform to what we wanted we ignored it decided you don't really know what you're talking about.

fixed!

[–]SailingSparkIATSE 1811 points1812 points  (94 children)

never mind that customers were probably buying the product because of the fresh taste.

I saw this in action a couple of years ago. I work for a large international casino corp. The place I work at was acquired by them in 2018 and immediately began making changes to our expenses. One of the first things they tried was going with lessor quality of meat for the steakhouse.

At our steakhouse, the cheapest burger is going to run you $30.. it goes up to a Japanese 12 oz wagyu steak for $350. This does not include sides, deserts, and drinks.

The customers revolted. It took all of a week before sales were down and people stopped coming in.

[–]SeraphymCrashing 549 points550 points  (7 children)

Oh my god, I lived through this exact thing at Steak and Seafood place I worked at 20 years ago. They were famous for their prime rib. The owner was mostly hands off, but I think his marriage was falling apart, so he became more involved. He decided to switch from the top end ribeyes to the bottom shelf. The GM argued with him, but got overruled.

As soon as we cooked up the first batch, we all tasted it, and it was so tough and terrible. I remember one of the servers actually asking "Is this okay to serve?" We got tons of complaints, but never actually switched back. I ended up quitting when the owner fired the GM, and then hired some bartender he liked from a different restaurant to be the GM. The whole place ended up closing down like a year later.

[–]Kiltemdead 93 points94 points  (0 children)

Oh my God... I went through something similar. The owner brought in his "mentor" to help his restaurant and they ended up changing everything like a dozen times within a month. People kept complaining because nothing tasted the same two days in a row. They ended up opening two additional branches of the same restaurant, and within about a year, all three closed down. It was so much fun to watch.

[–]Unique-Abberation 58 points59 points  (5 children)

He probably wanted to lower the cost so he could pay alimony

[–]SeraphymCrashing 60 points61 points  (4 children)

So, I don't know all the details, but I do know that the owner got the money for his restaurants from his wife's family. I'm pretty sure she was loaded. I know he got to keep the restaurants in the divorce, and he ran 75% of them into the ground within 5 years. They had been doing just fine for years when he was hands off.

This was the same guy who came in once, and decided to teach me how to cut tri-tips (even though I had been cutting the steaks for like a year at that point). He proceeded to instruct me over 45 minutes on the right way to cut the tri-tip, never realizing that he was cutting a ball-tip the whole time.

The rest of the back of the house gave me shit for that for weeks. Asking if I needed help with my cuts.

God, that guy was the worst.

[–]Neifion_ 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I mean of course they're doing fine when they're hands off, rich people are useless and people rich off other people's money are even moreso

when they start putting their ideas into play that's the end of everything good

[–]SeraphymCrashing 15 points16 points  (1 child)

This guy was the perfect example of it too. It wasn't even his money, it was his wife's. He didn't run the restaurants, he didn't design the menus or do a single thing of value. When he did decide to get involved, he destroyed everything he touched. He didn't even know how little he actually knew.

I was very young when I worked there, and it was eye opening for me. The idea that anything in this country is fair is absurd.

[–]coolreg214 191 points192 points  (8 children)

There’s a gas station in my hometown that sells fried chicken that people would drive for miles to get it. I heard they sold about 4k lbs per week. The owner had some health problems so he sold it. The new owners decided they could cut costs by replacing the cook. It’s been going downhill ever since.

[–]Rinas-the-name 182 points183 points  (5 children)

My mom was the cook in a small town gas station mini mart like that. She made everything. Then found out she was being paid less than the cashier. She asked for a raise and the owner claimed he could replace her with a microwave and frozen food. He was “completely blindsided” when she quit.

He didn’t realize you can’t buy frozen versions of half the stuff she made from scratch, and people notice when you do. Then he thought he could replace her with just any woman. He’s an old southern guy and thought all women could cook like that and would show up at 4 am to do so. He didn’t even pay my mom until opening.

He can’t even figure out how losing her affected gas sales. The idiot.

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Give a rich person a goose that lays golden eggs and they'll take every opportunity to rip a handful of feathers off of it while screaming at the hired expert goose-tenders that they're all useless and worthless and stupid.

Best manager I ever worked with, like I haven't seen this lady in a decade but she was the kinda leader you'd follow through fire. She quit her restaurant GM job to go be a waitress, get paid more and actually see her family occasionally.

Her replacement stole everything that wasn't nailed down. Just walked out the back door with a bag of buns or box of burgers every night, to make that tiny paycheck stretch to feed her houseful of teenagers.

Eventually almost got busted because she wasn't adjusting the inventory in the computer, writing off more than normal as waste. So on paper we should've been overflowing with inventory but in reality the freezer was nearly empty and we were borrowing burgers from other stores to stay open.

Franchise owner was so stupid he couldn't figure out what was going on, asked her, she brought it to me with panic in her eyes, and long story short after a couple days of wandering around the back with a clipboard kicking things I had a complete list of what was missing and had found a pile of empty milk jugs under the shelves in the walk-in fridge. Owner so stupid he just fired the one 18yo eventually caught sneaking milk, thought that would fix the problem.

New GM went right back to stealing everything that wasn't nailed down, now with some idea how to cover her tracks. And the owner never thought to ask me directly because I'm clearly just the village idiot in the dishpit or hanging out the back drive-thru window because I'm too silly to be trusted in the kitchen!

[–]andhowsherbush 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Something similar happened with a chick who worked at a gas station down the street where I use to live. She took a lot of pride in the food they sold and took it upon herself to make that the thing she was in charge of. she started learning how to make everything from scratch and started making all of the pizzas herself instead of selling the premade pizzas and the quality started getting so good people were going there just to buy pizzas. for some reason the owner got mad about it and forced her to stop making everything herself and sell the cheap premade food. Sales tanked and the place had to shut down. She got a job as a manager at one of the nearby pizza places and they almost instantly became the go to pizza place.

[–]ElectricMan324 97 points98 points  (5 children)

I remember the "old school" Vegas of the 90s. You could go to a cheap buffet in the casino for breakfast lunch and dinner, then go gambling a little and see a show. Not top of the line but enough for a bunch of young people on a fun weekend.

Now it feels like the selection is basically a mall food court, just massively overpriced. Instead of a loss leader to get people in the door, its treated like a profit center. Why do I want to spend $20 for an average burger (alone)? The food used to be part of the appeal. Vegas is no longer a cheap, fun attraction.

Enshitification is real.

[–]TryingToStayOutOfIt[🍰] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Yep. I work in the strip. Can confirm. Literally the cost of a burger with no fries. Or 6 wings with no carrots or celery. Don’t get me started on how much they charge for water…….IN THE DESERT.

[–]red286 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I remember the "old school" Vegas of the 90s.

I miss 90s Vegas. Casinos always had little floor shows going on every 30 minutes, buffets were dirt cheap (particularly if you bought the 2-for-1 tickets), even the a la carte restaurants were incredibly cheap, you could get a beer for $0.99, or a yard-long margarita on a lanyard for $3. All the casinos on Fremont would give out shrimp cocktails for free. Rooms were $25/night downtown and $45/night on The Strip.

Now none of that shit is true anymore. Floor shows disappeared, buffets are $30 a seat, half of the a la carte restaurants are owned by celebrity chefs and cost >$300 for a full dinner, most of the rest are national chains. Beers are $6, yard-long margaritas are $15, shrimp cocktail is $4.99, and you're lucky to find a room for under $150/night.

[–]unkelgunkel 572 points573 points  (41 children)

I don’t understand how this is legal. It’s basically stealing from the customers with extra steps. Instead of just stealing, you wait for someone else to build a reputable business with a great product, let their customers come to expect and pay for high quality, then buy the company and gut the supply chain to cheap crap and hope that we make our money back before people notice and stop buying it, rinse and repeat. It’s a bait and switch with extra steps and a legal mechanism by which to take place with protections for the people involved because they hide behind LLCs and shit.

[–]stevenip 430 points431 points  (13 children)

Now imagine the ceo is making millions of dollars a year being paid in stock, which is increasing in price because the increased profits look good in the stock market reports. He holds that stock for a year then sells it for capital gains tax levels of 25% taxes instead of the 38% he should be paying. Then he leaves after 3 years to step another company when the customer levels start to drop because they notice everything sucks now.

Late stage capitalism is ruining our world

[–]punkr0x 163 points164 points  (4 children)

Meanwhile they've been laying off employees, so the remaining workers are doing more work for the same pay and are left with nothing when they come in to work one day to a sign on the door that says "This location is closed."

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 66 points67 points  (2 children)

So this is how our civilization falls eh? Stupidly?

Those Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books predicted this. Remember the planet obsessed with shoes?

[–]Only-Inspector-3782 25 points26 points  (1 child)

And then every year, the millions he made generate hundreds of thousands in wealth tax-free. Need money? He can take out a loan. Need to pay back the loan? Make some risky investments and sell the losers for no net gain.

We need a tax on the ridiculously wealthy.

[–]TurkeyBaconALGOcado 189 points190 points  (12 children)

It goes even deeper than that. Not only are they fleecing the customers, but they'll take out massive loans, using the business as collateral. Once the credit lines are maxed out, the C-suite members that were put in place by the purchasing company start running the purchased company into the ground. When it inevitably fails, file bankruptcy and get the loan balances wiped out.

"Leveraged buyout" is the tactic. KB Toys, Toys-R-Us, Sears, and more have fallen victim to it.

[–]MissingCrab 95 points96 points  (6 children)

Don't forget the step where they short the stock of the failing company to get an even larger payout

[–]Agitated_Ask_2575 48 points49 points  (5 children)

Wait till you get to the part where they are selling shares of stocks they do not own, literally selling shares that do not exist...

[–]UnluckyAssist9416 30 points31 points  (0 children)

More likely, after they take out the loans they pay the loan out via dividends to the stockholders... Also make some horrible business decisions like selling all real estate of the company to the private equity company with large monthly rent payments... then immediately sell all their stock or, if privately owned, sell it to some dupe.

[–]Honky_Stonk_Man 18 points19 points  (0 children)

A classic “bust-out” technique that mobsters used.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's even more rigged than that. If the company is on the s&p 500 or one of the other indices then all the mutual funds / ETFs are forced to buy it even though they know it's dog s***, thus propping up the price for a while.

[–]Physical_Thing_3450 42 points43 points  (0 children)

It’s legal because the ones buying out places and doing this are all private equity firms or run by large investment corporations. They have the money to lobby for laws that benefit themselves only. The only thing they have to produce is profit until the investment is bled dry. Then it’s killed on the alter of capitalism and discarded in bankruptcy. No one pays the price for that but the customer. The firms walk away and get to wash their hands of it all while starting the process anew at another institution they are dismantling for as much only as they can milk it for.

[–]tsv1138 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Great description of private equity. “If I sell off the R&D department the books will show massive profits in spite of dwindling sales, and now that the shareholders are the only market that matters the stock prices go up and the C suite gets golden parachutes as the building and lives of the employees collapses.”

[–]akriiroseProfit Is Theft 82 points83 points  (15 children)

I’m autistic and I absolutely can taste the difference. Black Forest brand gummy bears recently changed something in their product. I bought one bag of the new recipe. I had to give it away. It tasted bad and the texture had changed. No more gummy bears for me. 🥲

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Recently most of my safe foods changed their recipes to include some form of celery or celery seed, because it's cheap.

I'm allergic to celery! I'm in itchy sneezy hell, getting resentful of the grocery store since it mostly sells poison disguised as my favorite foods.

Over here trying yet again to learn how to cook, because I can't survive forever on cereal and tea and dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Sorry, even with wagyu beef the margins on a $350 hamburger have to be more than some people make in a day. How the fuck could they justify needing to juice that margin even more?

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Ya ever known a hoarder? Exact same justification system as greedy people. We just pretend it's different when someone goes wonky in the head and starts collecting too many doorknobs or cats rather than more money than anyone sane would ever know what to do with.

[–]Independent-Cloud822 574 points575 points  (40 children)

I was once a part of the opening team of a new restaurant concept in Atlanta Ga. (Rio Bravo) We made everything inhouse to the highest standards. The restaurant was incredibly successful. We opended a second store, then a third. When we had five stores all making money , the owners sold out to Dardin. They took their millions and walked. As a GM I stayed with Dardin and trained new management on our procedures. Within 3 months they wanted to cut costs and bring in everything prepacked and using Sexton. Whereas we made fresh guacamole and pico de gallo, we made our own flan, everyday, and we used to buy the best quality skirt steak and marinate it overnight to tenderize it for our fajitas, all quality control went out the window. Naturally, I was let go for telling them they would fail and within 2 years the chain failed.

[–]not-rasta-8913 311 points312 points  (13 children)

They replaced in house made guacamole with store bought crap and thought they wouldn't lose customers? My guacamole is leaps and bounds better than store bought and it still pales when compared with a good mexican restaurant stuff. While some customers might not notice, a lot will.

[–]Mehhucklebear 174 points175 points  (5 children)

They all will. Fresh guacamole versus processed guacamole are just entirely different things

[–]defixiones 91 points92 points  (9 children)

Failed or successfully executed their exit strategy while maximising returns?

Investors want to take a large, windfall profit and move on to the next opportunity rather than maintain a profitable business indefinitely. Late capitalism dictates that businesses have an optimal lifecycle rather than return low profits over a long term.

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Damn I feel old now. I went to business school so long ago that I was learning how to make something a "going concern" as in likely to continue existing indefinitely into the future as best we can tell.

Ya know, because if you're making baby formula or pliers or whatever, well humans are going to continue to need those things so ya better do your best to keep providing them reliably year after year.

Like owning a goose that lays golden eggs, ya gotta feed it well and take good care of it, possibly hire a team of expert goose-tenders. Not fool around with cutting its rations and using just a couple of teenagers and a disinterested nepo-hire manager to tend it.

[–]defixiones 21 points22 points  (1 child)

The whole model is completely unsustainable and spreads everywhere. Long-term businesses that provide actual value to people aren't valued by capital.

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just last night I was drinking tequila shots with a cousin who has never had any serious interest in, well, serious things. And I got to prattling about... basically how everything I learned in school says capitalism is rapidly dying, and I was laughing about it.

She looked a little worried and said she hopes it doesn't happen within her lifetime, and I told her it's fine because that would just mean she'd get a say in what we try out next.

Like seriously, she works her tail off OUTDOORS and then has to try surviving winter on unemployment. Rent is eating most of all her paychecks even though the place is so run down the plumbing hardly works. She's supporting two kids alone because her ex is a deadbeat alcoholic and her eldest kid is stuck at home to help mom keep making rent because she can't manage it alone.

We've already done the maximum of collapsing households together that's reasonable without people sleeping on couches instead of beds. My elderly aunt already lives in her caretaker/adult son's living room, also without properly functioning plumbing. Folks living like sardines around here, and my landlord just announced an illegal rent increase from like $850 to 1200!

[–]ki_mkt 340 points341 points  (23 children)

I remember reading about an old beer company had a solid following and still did that.
Customers hated it and they changed the recipe back, but the damage was done.
The company never recovered its reputation.

//edit I believe it was Schlitz beer and here's an article on how famous became infamous
https://beerconnoisseur.com/articles/schlitz-how-milwaukees-famous-beer-became-infamous

[–]No_Reference_8777 170 points171 points  (6 children)

My entire life, I've never known of Schlitz Beer as anything but a joke. I was surprised to find out there was a time that it was the top beer in the country.

[–]TBShaw17 43 points44 points  (3 children)

I could be wrong, but the first time Harry Caray made a pubic appearance after the Cardinals fired him (for allegedly banging the wife of owner Gussie Busch), he was intentionally drinking a Schlitz to stick it to AB.

[–]TaupMauve 9 points10 points  (0 children)

pubic

Don't edit that. Just leave it.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (15 children)

Coke changed their recipe, the customers complained, so Coke sells Old Coke & New Coke now

[–]Duke-Guinea-Pig 141 points142 points  (9 children)

that's slightly different, but the same idea. It was just done more intelligently. The coke of the 70s used cane sugar, they wanted to change to corn syrup to save money, but it didn't taste as good. So they switched to New Coke with a completely different recipe for a while and waited for all the (old) Coke to get used up. Then they came out with "Coke Classic" which was basically coke but with corn syrup.

This is why "Mexican Coke" tastes better. They still use the cane sugar.

[–]Skylarneko 69 points70 points  (1 child)

Honestly, all sodas need to have cane sugar instead of corn syrup. It just tastes so much better with the actual sugar.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 75 points76 points  (1 child)

Mexican coke has that “Ahhh refreshing taste” American coke has that damn this shit just left a layer of corn syrup all over my teeth

[–]Either_Cupcake_5396 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You know what’s amazingly delicious? Brazilian Fanta. It’s nothing like the stuff we have here. If you can find any, I strongly suggest you try it and come back to tell me how right I am.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly, thanks for the details

[–]ki_mkt 28 points29 points  (1 child)

still can't taste the cocaine in the old coke

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Such a shame. I prefer Mexican coke in the tall glass bottles. Uses all natural cane sugar

[–]No_Arugula7027 587 points588 points  (27 children)

Explains a lot. My mother sometimes tries something new in a supermarket. She realizes it becomes popular and they make lots of sales, everyone´s buying it, people are talking about it. A year down the line it doesn´t taste the same. People stop buying it. The product languishes. The supermarket stops ordering it. We start saying, "remember that thing we liked..."

The company has just fucked up a successful product to try to skim pennies of profit and ending up losing a profit centre. Capitalism is just a long death spiral to the garbage bin.

[–]mizinamo 274 points275 points  (11 children)

"New and improved recipe!"

(The improvement is to our bottom line, not to the taste.)

[–]Jabbles22 115 points116 points  (7 children)

Yeah there was this frozen mac & cheese I liked. Went to buy some one day and spot "new cheesier recipe" on the packaging. Great I think to myself. I got home and heated it up. It was not cheesier or better in any way. It was edible but quite bland. I was disappointed.

Next day I mentioned this to a co-worker who I know also liked this product. He tells me he also tried the new version and agreed it sucked now. That night after work I go to their website to see if I can give them feedback. As I'm looking for the mac & cheese on their list of products I noticed that there are very few reviews for their other products. I get to the mac & cheese and there are a bunch of reviews, all complaining about the new recipe.

I don't know if they changed back but I doubt it. I just don't buy it anymore.

Edit: Fixed typos

[–]LeviHolden 12 points13 points  (2 children)

do you realize you’re typing “8” instead of “I?”

[–]ImmaMamaBee 73 points74 points  (2 children)

This has been killing me! I feel like every time I find a new staple item, the recipe changes and then it isn’t available anymore.

I ate those blueberry soft breakfast bars for YEARS. I actually would be excited to have them because they were so good. Then suddenly they tasted like powdered sugar with the most tart (in a bad way) blueberry filling I’ve ever tasted. It was so bad. The soft sugary taste clashed so hard with the extremely tart blueberry taste. I stopped buying them immediately because it was so bad. The bars even looked a lot paler than they used to.

Recently these chicken egg rolls have been on my radar as probably going south. The packaging recently changed so I’m waiting for the recipe to change soon, now. My boyfriend’s cookie changed packaging first, then recipe. Now they’re basically like eating drywall with pieces of chocolate in it.

I had found these seasoned gummies and a week later they were on close out sale. Tomato bouillon is now mixed with the chicken bouillon so there’s no plain tomato option anymore.

Basically I’m starting to have to go to multiple stores to find things and it’s getting under my skin.

[–]OpenResearch1 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I remember eating Kellogg's pop tarts in the 90s that were edible.

[–]fubes2000 19 points20 points  (1 child)

It's the toxic expectation that revenue and/or profits must increase, year on year, every year. IMHO it's just not sustainable.

Make something good, be known for not compromising on quality, price accordingly, aim for a maintainable profit margin, manage your finances to handle difficult periods, and pay your employees fairly.

You can be Arizona Iced Tea, or you can be SoBe.

[–]Lily_Flowrs 185 points186 points  (1 child)

I flipping hate companies that do this. Idk how many things I used to love that they changed the recipe or went cheap and it’s absolute dog poop.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Remember Vitners Crunchy Curls? Well those things taste like crap now. They changed the recipe too.

[–]vmsrii 170 points171 points  (4 children)

This reminds me of my recent trip to Subway.

They’ve been drug through the dirt for a good long while now, and for good reason, but I’ve always had a soft spot for them.

I usually get my subs with their flatbread, which I always thought was nice. Nice texture, a bit fluffy, nice thickness, good structural integrity

The last time I went, they replaced their flatbread with what was clearly just a grocery-store flower tortilla, just in the shape of a rectangle. Ultra flat, paper thin, fell apart instantly. What the fuck

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

That’s so terrible…I don’t like how companies make the decisions for us. Why can’t they put up a petition or something like hey we are thinking of doing this we need the general populations vote on whether or not we should move forward changing things.

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 28 points29 points  (0 children)

What's the point of being a land-owning Lord if you've gotta ask the peasants' opinions all the time?

Learned this from watching my dad. The pattern goes "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!" over and over until it suddenly becomes "Wait, where'd everybody go? EVERYBODY IS SO MEAN TO ME FOR NO REASON IT MUST BE XYZ'S FAULT!"

Watched it play out recently with a local restaurant that opened downtown, tried out serving old fish covered in strong sauce at high prices, went out of business, blamed the homeless folks that were there long before the restaurant opened.

[–]Mehhucklebear 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Literally, inedible now. I'm not saying they were ever the best, but i used to love Subway. Now, it's just gross

[–]PygarNoMemory 148 points149 points  (12 children)

I worked in a bread and bun factory. When they'd roll out a new product it would have real honey and quality ingredients, brag about it on the packaging. After the customer base was established the formulas were always changed and artificial ingredients were substituted to enshittify the product for bigger margins.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 103 points104 points  (8 children)

Why does everything have to be about money, imagine a world where all store bought food was actually good quality. Not having to wonder whether it’s highly processed or not.

[–]Maeglom 59 points60 points  (6 children)

Because our society is structured so that the only significant thing that determines success or failure of an individual is money. When money is the only thing that matters, people work to maximize profits.

[–]Lisa8472 19 points20 points  (5 children)

What I don’t understand is why businesses always think that lowering quality will be more profitable than raising prices.

[–]Beowulf33232 297 points298 points  (0 children)

I had a boss bring in a new shrinkwrap vendor. I figure I'll play nice and ask what I need to to give it an honest go.

First question, what temp does it run best at? Dude looks at me and says "Oh it'll run at any setting you use!"

Well, give it a shot is out the window, time to make fun of this guy to his face.

Second question. How do you bring a roll of your product to us and not even know what temperatures give your temperature reactive product the best chance of winning us over?

He insisted whatever settings we used were good, so I cut my shrinkwrap and taped his roll to my scrap, and ran it out to bring his product up for the next bundle.

It took half an hour to get a package to seal. Then I overshrank everything for another 20 minutes until we got the machine cool enough to run his shrinkwrap.

Then it started leaving goobers on the sealing arm.

Boss insisted it was great.

So I tell boss "No it's not, it's trash. But you're the boss. Tell me to run it because it'll save you money and I will."

Yeah we ran it right until customers saw what we were sending them.

[–]Infamous_Smile_386 537 points538 points  (36 children)

And places like TGIFridays wonder why they're going belly up. 

They replaced all their food with low quality, pre-made, highly processed garbage. 

[–]TheLaughingMannofRed 337 points338 points  (10 children)

And they were also bought up by a Private Equity Group.

Remember: The moment your business gets bought up by PE, you know the business will be on its way out. They are parasitic - Siphoning off every bit of profit they can until it's left a husk that cannot heal or revitalize.

[–]H377Spawn 108 points109 points  (4 children)

It’s what is happening to Red Lobster. They tried to claim some dumb shit like an endless shrimp sale ran them broke. Sears, American Toys R Us,..

[–]Zeraw420 85 points86 points  (2 children)

The endless shrimp deal that they've done for decades and has historically been a huge moneymaker?? They tried blaming consumers and said we ate too much shrimp lol

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 41 points42 points  (1 child)

It's so hard for most folks to remember that terrible people will lie to their face and later pat themselves on the back and claim it was just good business and Very Smart.

Private Equity group bought the vets office and killed my bird friend...

[–]Broodyr 12 points13 points  (0 children)

yep, when i realized that PE has been getting into veterinary AND human hospitals, it really dawned on me just how bleak everything is becoming

[–]devospice 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Private Equity companies are going to destroy this country. The place I worked for 8 years got bought by one two years ago. We coasted for a year, then all of a sudden they realized they had to actually work to get clients and their numbers were going to be down this quarter. For the first time in the 18 year history of the company there were layoffs. I got caught in the second round.

[–]UniqueIndividual3579 19 points20 points  (0 children)

They also transfer the real estate to another arm of the PE and then over charge the company for it's own land. Once the company goes under, the PE still has the land.

[–]DuringTheBlueHour 53 points54 points  (3 children)

I went to TGI Fridays a few weeks ago and it was one of the worst things I've ever had at a restraunt. I got some appetizers and they all tasted literally like the frozen ones you can buy in a supermarket and it cost around 16$+ per meal. It's definately going to be the last time I ever go there. 

[–]Veni-Vidi-ASCII 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Another restaraunt goes down the applebee's road

[–]the_TAOest 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Seems to be a trend out there. Microwaved food in an expensive restaurant setting. These corporate overlords really think that these systems are so engrained that consumers will not change.

[–]UDarkLord 60 points61 points  (1 child)

Nah, they just profit on the way down, and then blame millennials (and soon enough Gen Z), for ‘killing’ a business.

[–]EmEmAndEye 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly why I stopped going there. Everything not only looked like pre-made, highly processed garbage, but it also tasted WORSE than it looked.

[–]elvbierbaum 115 points116 points  (3 children)

At my company we created an app to use in restaurants for labeling. The devs were working on "voice" options for the app so they had us test it and give our feedback.
Feedback: The app can barely hear you in a silent room. You have to enunciate every word clearly.

I told them it is a bad idea for a kitchen as they tend to be loud and fast paced. The app won't hear them and the customer will get super irritated having to pause what they are doing to enunciate the item name clearly. And who knows what will happen if they have an accent!! It's faster to search the item manually and hit print.

They released the feature on the app in the next update a few weeks later. Why ask for our input if you plan to release it anyway? Makes no sense.

[–]Marysews 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I wonder if there's a way to measure the frequency of voice mode vs. typing mode.

[–]NetflxnschillAnarcho-Syndicalist 94 points95 points  (3 children)

LOL I specialize in quality control/inventory/logistics and this sounds like every conversation I’ve had with decision makers telling them the decision they’re about to make is penny wise but dollar foolish.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 49 points50 points  (2 children)

And then they say “We greatly appreciate your feedback and will be brought up in our meeting” then continue to make said bad decision anyways.

[–]NetflxnschillAnarcho-Syndicalist 46 points47 points  (0 children)

If you want a really fun story to get into, I worked at the Museum of the Bible as their registrar back in 2015-2016, and when they asked me to “choose” which artifacts were which so we could turn some into the government and keep some for ourselves, I refused saying that was not how this worked.

I got fired and they got fined like $5 million.

[–]fourflatyres 73 points74 points  (2 children)

They asked for your opinion. They didn't promise to pay it any attention.

This sort of silent swap is everywhere.

There is a major supplier making a sauce that sells under their own name but it is also sold as a store brand. It was a pretty good product and one could save a lot of money by finding the best deal on one of the store branded versions, which again, were exactly the same despite whatever store name was on the label. Fine. You could easily spot the clones because the "best before" date and lot number strings all had the same distinctive format.

It's so blatantly obvious, anyone can see it right away if they know what to look for. Only this one supplier does it that way.

Recently, they stopped being consistent. Instead of the same good product sold everywhere, they now have customized versions in most places. The color is different. The taste is different and weaker. It's more watery than before.

The consistency is gone.

Some of these store brand versions had been the same for 15 or 20 years. My family had fixated on one of them without even realizing it was sold in many different stores. We got to know that taste, and it's basically gone from all the store versions except one, and the actual name brand -which is rare, it must be said. I never see it in stores.

It's really disheartening to lose an ingredient that was once a big part of family meals. I remember going to a cook-out once and knew immediately that household used the same item because the taste was THAT unique. It made me smile. It was a taste of home.

Was.

[–]ThaneduFife 14 points15 points  (1 child)

What brand(s) was it?

[–]AzureDreamer 99 points100 points  (12 children)

There are numerous stories of brands slowly worsening a product until they hit a tipping point and even when they try to rebuild trust it's already too late 

[–]GravityEyelidz[🍰] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

"If we squeeze the Golden Goose's neck hard enough, it'll shit out one last egg as it dies!"

[–]thegreasiestgreg 22 points23 points  (6 children)

I felt like I'm going insane and turning into a conspiracy theorist but every processed food I eat tastes like salty rancid garbage now. I thought I may have just been getting old and my tastes are changing? But I don't have this problem with any specific ingredients in real food.

Kraft Mac n Cheese has been the biggest eye opener lately. I use to live off that stuff just a few years ago and hadnt had one in a while. I made a box last week and I couldn't stomach it, it was foul.

All of the jarred queso taste like straight up puke now. I can't even eat a can of soup when I'm sick because it simultaneously tastes of nothing while being way too fucking salty on the back end. I guess the silver lining of this all is that I don't buy any prepared/frozen foods anymore and now I just have to deal with spending ours of my time cooking every week. Yet somehow my grocery bill is the same, if not higher.

[–]jewessofdoom 99 points100 points  (5 children)

This is an ongoing nightmare when someone has an uncommon food allergy. My partner is allergic to corn, corn syrup, etc. Guess what the cheapest sweetener is? They love to advertise “no high fructose corn syrup” but it still has regular corn syrup. Maltodextrin is also commonly made from corn. Every time a product we used to buy suddenly changes packaging, and has a “new fresh look,” it means the company is cutting costs and it’s the kiss of death. Their extra executive bonus can be devastating to people relying on that one product that is actually safe.

On the positive side, we have learned how to make a ton of stuff from scratch. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]Mehhucklebear 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I wish there was an affordable and reliable brand that only used clean ingredients

[–]jewessofdoom 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I’m in upstate NY so thankfully Wegmans stuff exists here, and a lot of it is surprisingly safe for him. It was actually harder and more expensive to find things he could eat in LA. But even our precious Wegmans has messed with some of their recipes so I still spend time reading every damn ingredient list.

[–]doctorchazzzzz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Or even a common food allergy! Soy ends up getting put in EVERYTHING even though it's a relatively common allergen.

[–]hot4you11 40 points41 points  (4 children)

This is upsetting to me as a consumer because most people (myself included) just reorder what we were getting before and now I think I’m getting the old, fresh product.

Also, this is why nothing tastes good anymore

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Until you keep buying more confused on why it taste so different and come to the conclusion..”oh these bastards changed the recipe” :(

[–]Mehhucklebear 20 points21 points  (2 children)

This is why we stopped buying stuff from Panera. We were power users because it was one of the few places that were fresh and clean. But, when they switched to processed and stopped making stuff in-house, we just use the sip club, which they definitely loose money on

[–]misslene78 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Panera used to be so good! I used to go there at least once a week, but they suck now and I haven’t gone there in the past few years.

[–]Mycroft-Holmes_IV 33 points34 points  (0 children)

There's a word for people who ask your advice, don't take it, but then complain to you when things don't turn out the way they want.

Askholes.

[–]i-wear-hats 71 points72 points  (0 children)

And then you will take the fall for saying it's fine despite saying the complete opposite because the CEO cannot have made a mistake (or else we will be forced to sever him with much more money)

[–]charlie2135 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Some people have no sense of taste, literally.

I'm married to a hypersensitive, in the sense of taste, spouse. If I switch any ingredient in a recipe she can pick it out. I, however, am not so gifted.

When I pick up mcd's for breakfast if I'm in a hurry I'll give my pup some of my eggs. She'll spit it out. If I make eggs and give it to her she gobbles it up.

The grocery chains in the PNW have gotten so bad with their pastries that I've regressed to the covid days of baking again.

[–]Mondak 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Our tax policies support and promote this behavior. We should raise short term capital gains taxes to like 90% and lower long term capital gains to near 0%. The pump and dump strategies like this would wither in the light. Treating employees good is a long term strategy. Using high quality ingredients is a long term strategy. Continuing to put out long lasting products people love is a long term strategy.

Cutting corners, shitting on employees who got you there, switching to lower quality ingredients will kill you in the long term.

[–]pwnageface 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I worked at a mom and pop restaurant for over a decade. Our cake that we charged $8/slice for (tiny ass slices) was store brand cake mix and store brand pudding/custard. Not even name brand! How do I know? Because the boss would send me to the grocery store next door once a week in my regular clothes to buy it. Total cost of cake $4 + labor maybe $5 = $9. Got about 20 slices from 1 cake. Our special linguine with clam sauce? Store bought canned clam bits. Yeah it was about a buck a can and we could make 2 dishes from it at $22/plate. There were several regulars over the years that called us out on it saying things like, "I used to really like it but I think he gets his clams from another source now and we just don't care much for it..." The sad truth is- some WILL know but I'm sure most won't. Like the coke vs pepsi thing at a bar.

[–]Serpentongue 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Who is the company

[–]gilliansgerbaras 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I used to work in a restaurant that changed their salad dressing and changed the portion sizes to a third of the previous size - the staff noticed and people noticed.

[–]hotwifefun 24 points25 points  (0 children)

When Ben & Jerry’s got bought out, I tasted the difference. They said they didn’t change anything but I could tell, took about a year or so, but they started fucking with the ingredients and I stopped buying it.

[–]GagOnMacaque 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Don't get in the way of a CEO's third or fourth yacht. It won't end well.

[–]Procctor 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is what kills companies, I have seen it happen many times before and it will keep happening. The first time it’s usually fine a small change and a small cost savings, but corporations keep going with it. Suddenly 5 changes later they have no idea why sales are so low and why their loyal customers are shopping elsewhere. They realise they need to cut costs by reducing staff and suddenly there isn’t a company anymore.

[–]one_bean_hahahaha 37 points38 points  (7 children)

If you've ever wondered why grocery store cakes taste kind of weird, know it's because they use shortening for the icing, instead of butter.

[–]Reinheitsgetoot 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Yeah, tell your company the name TGI Fridays is up for sale. They did the same thing many many years ago and speed ran sales right into the sub basement. All their stuff used to be fresh, and that’s what ppl pay for. Not fresh? They’ll stay in their cars and drive through McDonalds.

[–]D_Winds 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The quickest way to save money is to cancel bonuses for management and executives.

:)

[–]Adventurous-Depth984 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is one of those vote with your dollars things.

If companies are using soy filler instead of flour and palm oil instead of butter, I’m simply not buying their products anymore.

You can taste the difference, plus it’s garbage for your health.

[–]Scoobydewdoo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Just add a picture of a crashed Boeing 737 Max to all your emails with the caption "this is what happens when you don't listen to your Quality Control people".

[–]Jonatan83 41 points42 points  (4 children)

cut costs for no good reason

The reason is the cut costs

[–]StolenWishes 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The line must always go up. "Enough" does not compute.

[–]PuzzleheadedAd3929 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This is why I feel like the “good” side of Supply and Demand doesn’t work anymore. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I hear people say “well if the businesses costs go down they’ll lower your prices too.” Why would they? That just gives them more profit and people are already accustomed to paying that much so why make them believe that could go down?

[–]AzureDreamer 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah and it wasn't a good reason.

[–]BlueberryDressing[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was good while it lasted :( I honestly enjoyed some of the dressings we made. Absolutely delicious.

[–]garlic_bulbs[🍰] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Reminds me of when we were moving to a new building and getting a new coffee vendor for the office. We had a taste test. They went with the cheaper one anyway that had lost the taste test. Burnt popcorn and/or cigarettes is how I usually describe the flavor.

[–]kittenmoody 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I cannot stand any Ranch dressing that is bought ready to eat. I love hidden valley ranch that I make at home.

I bought a Reece’s peanut butter cup “blizzard” at a non-dairy Queen a few weeks ago, they used knock off cups, I could tell instantly!

[–]Marysews 28 points29 points  (3 children)

My hubby surprises people when we go to any of our many favorite restaurants and asks, "Did they change the recipe?" Good ol' pikachu face on the wait staff, and massive apologies from the manager. Hubby has been cooking and eating for decades. It's manglement that decides the customer can't tell the difference.

[–]darkblue___ 13 points14 points  (1 child)

This story also should make people to understand, It's all about money.

Never ever work hard for a company.

If they need to fire you to cut costs, they will fire you regardless of your work.

[–]Mr-Fognoggins 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I saw the sad results of this a few months back with Annie’s Mac and Cheese. They replaced the butter with corn starch in their cheese powder and it’s worse than generic store brand garbage now. Utterly shameful.

[–]Cheezeball25 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The same corner cutting and short term profit focused business majors that are ruining our food supply are the same type of greedy morons who ended up running Boeing.

In one industry it ruins quality food and drives people away from what should be good products, in another industry it ultimately has killed hundreds from 2 planes falling out of the sky.

I'm tired of these Wharton business school types who are incapable of making any other decision other than making everything worse. Like these guys are legitimately incapable of making the choice of increasing the quality of their products or services.

[–]Enteroids 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Learned this years ago when I work in restaurants, especially with Mac and Cheese. Little kids will let you know when your mac and cheese is garbage. My boss was surprised that our mac and cheese sales and dropped so dramatically after the stuff we got from corporate was changed.

My best friend would pound McRibs when they would come out years ago. Today he will eat a couple in a season and that's it. Granted he is more health conscious now but I asked why the change. He was a food science nerd and told me that McDonalds had changed the formulation for the McRib and he could tell there was more soy protein used in it. Wasn't as good anymore.

Hell I could tell you that Ken's Steakhouse Country French changed. Seems like it has more mustard to it. Not sure if it was a batch error or they actually changed the formula but something is off about them lately.

[–]DirtyPenPalDoug 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The downfall of every great restruant. We used to have a place that has the best hogies... like people would come from out of state to get... well they dropped the main ingredient.. sweet Vandalia yellow onions.. replaced with regular white onions and it's 100% not the same. Since they have done that they keep screaming " why are our sales down? Why are we.suffering? It's kids and their pads tight???"

Like no, you changed the product entirely.. I'd pay more for the old way.. but I'm not paying more ( they did jack the price) for shit.

[–]Competitive_Sail_844 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Tell them. It’s off brand and for a savings of—- you’ll increase our customer churn.

[–]queeblo40 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"So what if we take a popular product then severely reduce the quality in order to save a small amount of money while charging the same price."

"That's an interesting idea. What do you call it?"

"Capitalist Innovation!"

[–]IndependentAgent5853 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I went to the grocery store (a major grocery chain) and filled my cart up with salad veggies.

I then went to the salad dressing isle to buy balsamic vinegar. Balsamic vinegar is vinegar from grapes. It’s my favorite and is very healthy.

They had like 15 different balsamic vinegars to choose from. One by one I looked at the ingredients. Soybean oil. Seed oil. Junk junk junk. Not one item was actually balsamic vinegar. The closest thing was apple vinegar with some balsamic in it. It was my closest option so I bought it even thought I knew it would taste like trash because I don’t like apple vinegar. Sure enough, it was trash. I gave them my money and threw the product out, and can’t even buy the real stuff anymore. And they’ll keep labeling their products as balsamic vinegar even though they’re selling bottles of crap.

[–]stonecatsidle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

for this reason, it's a good idea to pay attention when your favorite food items get bought by another company. i used to love Ling Ling postickers, then Ajinomoto bought that company brand, changed the recipe to bland texture less trash, so it would no longer compete with Aj's own potstickers they charged twice as much for. Aj even lowered the price of Ling Ling hoping to stop bleeding loyal buyers after they sabotaged the very brand they bought and paid for.

[–]PropertyofLisa 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I used to get Breyer's ice cream because of the quality. It got bought out and went through the enshitification process. I refuse to ever buy Breyer's again, it's just another name that's been cashed out by corporate shit stains.

[–]Pin-Up-Paggie 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Carrabas did the same thing with their mussels.