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[–]WastingTimeOnMyBreak 466 points467 points  (34 children)

If my husband talked to me the way you talk to your partner I wouldn't be with him. You are extremely condescending.

"If I find a nail in my foot I'm going to be so disappointed" While they're literally building a crib and prob frustrated by the process and fact they couldn't find the nails.

"If you want to deflect ... then go for it but I'm not going to entertain it"

"Wow thanks for calling me annoying that felt great" (you're literally deflecting here, btw)

"Here comes the guilt trip"

"I'm done with this"

"Here comes the demeaning attitude"

"You don't give a shit when you hurt me" (deflecting again. Their conversation was about how you hurt them, but you've completely ignored it and focused on yourself or shut down the conversation. You're also turning your insult (joke) into a way to victimize yourself.)

"I will not be replying until you apologize. I refuse to tolerate it"

Was your partner being perfect in this conversation? No, of course not, but it escalated because of you. You seem horribly intolerable, trying to act holier than thou and controlling the conversation as if they're a child and you stand on higher ground. Get over yourself.

No one is perfect and they were clearly frustrated because they dropped the nails and your "joke" (which I don't actually believe was said in a joking tone) didn't sit right, so they lashed out due to that frustration, which isn't right but can be understandable in the moment. I wouldn't have made it a big deal at all if my husband made some off hand snark bc I decided to annoy him in a situation like that. I'd have helped him look for the nails or kept our kid out of the room until they were found.

[–]pitykitten_ 51 points52 points  (9 children)

All of this. Plus, I really wonder why they included the first message? It has nothing to do with the current situation and makes me feel they included it so they look good to readers, like “aww they’re normally so nice and appreciative”.

[–]StarboardSeat 38 points39 points  (8 children)

It was absolutely a manipulation technique.

Notice how she dirty deleted as soon as she saw things weren't going her way?

[–]Spidersensei 12 points13 points  (2 children)

There's no way a narcissistcould handle reading all this criticism. Lol

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (13 children)

This !!! These ss literally made me frustrated on behalf of her husband. I even empathize with him.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (2 children)

I’m literally so relieved everyone in these comments feels the same way as me. OP sucks and we should all shame her

[–]InsuranceNo6274 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This should be the top reply

[–]Purple_Crab_Leg 15 points16 points  (0 children)

100%

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

100%. OP, you’re part of the problem. Try being less annoying b

[–]Delicious_Attempt_93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank goodness, someone with actually good advice/reason. Agree with you !

[–]brainvheart143 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk maybe HELP him pick up the nails?

[–]uncommongerbil 149 points150 points  (1 child)

Glad this happened in a nursery because this is childish.

[–]Frequent_Visual3755 149 points150 points  (3 children)

Yeah... So here's the thing. You both are being ridiculous.

  1. Never argue over text. Ever. Ever ever ever. As soon as tensions build, put your anger and frustration to the side and suggest a phone call or talking in person. It NEVER ends well.

  2. Remember that (in healthy relationships) you guys aren't adversaries. You're partners wanting to make this relationship work and are preparing for something beautiful. So if he or you are hurt by something...you need to respect the person you married and vowed to love enough to hear them out. Put your ego to the side and HEAR the person. It's okay to be wrong. It's okay to have to apologize. It doesn't make you less than for making a mistake. Digging your heels in and being "right" gains you absolutely nothing. In fact, I would argue that you lose far more when you win an argument.

  3. What's helpful for me to remember in times where I think my husband is overreacting about something I said or did is to remember that we are living two totally separate lives and our perceived reality is impacted by that. It's completely possible that my intentions don't line up with the impact they have on him. AND ITS OKAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT and make him feel heard and try and avoid it in the future.

  4. I'm currently pregnant and my husband is doing so much to prepare for the baby since I can't. If I made a comment about being "disappointed" in him over something stupid, he would probably get a little hurt by it...regardless of my tone. Because, let's face it, most passive aggressive jokes have kernels of truth in them but we are too scared to face it head on so we convince the other person we didn't mean anything by it. The second he called you annoying and seemed aggravated by what you said - I would have stopped and asked my husband what he was feeling. He's probably just as overwhelmed as you with the coming changes. I would have listened to my husband, apologized for my poorly delivered joke, and then calmly asked him that the next time I hurt his feelings to tell me...so I could make it right, rather than insult me. THATS healthy conflict.

[–]abcdcba1232 3451 points3452 points  (333 children)

Honestly…

This sounds like a build up of miscommunications on both sides. Like obviously the other person was way out of line, but I can understand the frustration of trying to communicate to somebody who just isn’t getting it.

My best guess? They were stressed and overwhelmed about the nursery. You made a “joke” that did not land as a joke. Even as a third party observer, I don’t think it was funny. It sounds a LOT more like a veiled criticism. Like I hear “god can’t you just ever do anything right” and no it’s not healthy to call you annoying, but they were trying to match your delivery by “joking” that you’re annoying.

And whether you actually genuinely were trying to make a joke, your intentions are only half the story. Because intentions are 50% and impact is the other 50%. And they are telling you, not directly but pretty damn clearly to me, that the impact of your “joke” was very hurtful. And the fact that they reverse uno-ed you and basically did the exact same thing you did to them was intentional. They’re trying to show you that what you said was hurtful by doing the same thing to you. I’d wager a guess that they’ve tried to tell you they don’t like your “jokes” and you don’t listen because you insist that your intentions matter more than the impact. So they’re playing your game and you got your feelings hurt.

I’d say if you don’t want to be called annoying then you need to learn how to stop annoying your partner 😅

And weaponizing psychology terms isn’t cool either. You’re invalidating and shutting down the other person. Like no, it’s not okay to be mean to your partner. But you’re being mean to them too. You make mean jokes and then invalidate their pain when they try to tell you it’s hurtful. You act like your pain is reasonable but theirs isn’t.

And it sounds like to me that they’ve tried everything they can think of to try to communicate in a healthy way and they feel like the only way you might possibly understand is if they try to communicate in different ways.

I don’t think it helps to assign blame here. You’re both having communication issues. You’re both contributing. And you both need to work on some things to get healthier.

[–]CuriousPenguinSocks 349 points350 points  (64 children)

I very much agree with this whole comment. I'm someone who learned to "zing" people before they got me. I grew up in a very dysfunctional and abusive family.

My husband is very smart but not always quick on the uptake. It got to the point where I "zinged" him and he just sighed and said "you make me feel really small when you do that."

That hit in the gut. I realized that I did that to keep people at a distance and to hurt them before they hurt me.

Now I've learned to do it in a fun way that everyone enjoys, but doesn't harm.

It was very hard to hear because in my mind I wasn't doing it to hurt anyone. In reality, it was a defense mechanism to keep myself safe, but I didn't realize I was safe and just sabotaging my life.

[–]urfullofit- 89 points90 points  (14 children)

I appreciate your self awareness and propensity to hold yourself accountable.

I’m sure you’re a wonderful person.

[–]CuriousPenguinSocks 67 points68 points  (11 children)

This is such a nice comment, thank you so much for taking the time to write this to me.

It's not easy to have self awareness like this but I think growing up with a narcissistic mother has helped me understand that accountability is necessary for healthy relationships.

I'm just thankful my spouse was able and willing to speak up. I know that wasn't easy for him and I'm so thankful that he did.

[–]Inevitable_Nobody733 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Your husband sounds like how I’d be, and I thank you for actually listening 🥺 I’ve spoken up for myself before and was so scared to, and only got shut down. So now I’m just even more scared. It’s helpful/hopeful to know that people like you exist. I don’t expect anyone to be perfect or anywhere near it. I just want good communication and listening on both sides 🥲 so yeah. Thank you for being you 🥹 you and your husband both seem very lucky 🥰

[–]CuriousPenguinSocks 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel very lucky that we found each other and I know he feels the same, we're best friends.

I'm sorry you've been shut down before. It's so scary to speak up when someone hurts you, especially when they hurt your feelings.

The first time he said something to me, I admit that my initial response was to get defensive, but instead I just asked for some space to process what he told me. I then came back to ask questions and have an honest talk.

That was the hardest talk I've ever had with anyone but it was so needed. I learned that it's okay to not be perfect, but it's how we respond in those moments that matter the most.

I'm happy my story spoke to you and helped in some way. I hope that you continue to speak up to partners and find one that hears you.

[–]Mysterious_Ad9672 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I love that for you! I’m still working on this myself in every day life. It’s rough. How did you manage to “fix” things with your mother? I grew up in a similar situation, single mom (controlling and narcissistic) and a sister. Sister now in our adult life tends to back up my mom and then I’m the bad guy for boundaries - even when I’m trying to defend my sister...

[–]abcdcba1232 8 points9 points  (3 children)

You don’t blame the ocean for drowning you. You just get out and stay out of the water.

You don’t try to reason with the ocean. You don’t try to explain why it’s wrong to drown people or how much that hurts people. A narcissist has about as much ability to understand other people’s pain / perspective as an inanimate object….

You can’t change them. Certain parts of their brain just didn’t develop right as a child. They’re essentially “disabled” in the sense that part of their brain is just broken. Imagine someone after a stroke not being able to talk. You wouldn’t try to convince them of the benefits of talking. They just literally can’t.

A narcissist doesn’t choose not to have empathy. They don’t choose to be broken. But they are. And it’s maybe slightly possible to “fix” that part of the brain depending on how underdeveloped that part of the brain is. But it’s unlikely that anyone would ever try. It would take a LOT of work, and it would be extraordinarily painful. They also have a lot of psychological trauma and they have STRONG defense mechanisms against pain and further attacks to their ego. Acknowledging the fact that they’re broken would be an extremely difficult thing to accept for anyone, but it’s especially difficult someone who’s undergone enough trauma to develop a cluster B personality type.

Have some empathy and understanding. Understand they can’t change. Have empathy that they’ve suffered enough to rob them on an essential part of their humanity. Be angry at the people who did that to them. Be angry at a society that allows shit like that to happen. And be kind and loving by accepting that they will not change. Not ever. Your mom is not going to be the one in a million chance of beating something like that.

And then set your boundaries to keep yourself safe and let them manage their emotions by themselves. You’re not responsible for their reaction. You set boundaries about what you will do and what you accept into your life.

Getting angry, trying to argue, trying to change somebody are not boundaries. Boundaries are about how much access someone has to you. If her behavior hurts you, you limit access. You talk less. You walk away from a conversation. You don’t pick up the phone. You delete the angry voicemails. You walk away when they try to bait you.

[–]crystallsclear 15 points16 points  (1 child)

This is so wholesome. It’s sounds like you’re growing as a person. Self reflection is an amazing trait. It also sounds like he brings out the best in you.

[–]PhantomRTW 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Could you pass on information about how to do it without hurting anyone? I struggle with this and would like to correct myself.

[–]CuriousPenguinSocks 40 points41 points  (4 children)

Sure thing, I've never typed it out but will do my best.

I have a quick wit, it's how I've survived. I'm sarcastic and quick to insult. Again, a defense mechanism.

In the past, I would take any and all opportunities to "zing" or really be sarcastic in an attempt to be humorous.

Once I realized I was just being an AH disguised as humor, I thought about why I was doing those things. What was the result I was after? That was a tough one to be honest. It's hard to be honest about yourself when it comes to your flaws.

I realized I "zinged" people before they got me. Or as a means to keep them at arms length, so they wouldn't see me and the abuse I was suffering.

The only thing was, at that time, I was no longer living in active abuse. It had become part of who I was as a person. I was actively sabotaging my own life as a result. I was so scared of people seeing me and realizing that I was "broken" - as least that's how I saw myself. I thought if they knew how broken I was, they wouldn't want me in their life.

I was only dating him at the time but we've been married since, together 20+ years in total.

Now, I just think before I speak. I no longer feel the need to say things first. Which I think is why I didn't think before speaking in the past.

I don't always take every opportunity as well. I do it in a way where it's fun natured, it's not attacking anyone else to make myself feel better.

To be honest, since I've made this change, my husband zings me back now. I still remember the first time he did it, we both stopped and looked at each other and broke down into laughter. It was really a great experience for the both of us.

I used to use it as a weapon to hurt others. Now I use it as a way to make light of situations, or what's going on in the world or a way to say some of the hard things out loud but with humor.

I hope this helps give you some guidance.

[–]cranberryb 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I just wanted to say that I love everything you’ve shared about you and your partner. I love hearing about growth and change in relationships!!

[–]ThinkTomatillo656 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thank you. This is amazing 👏

[–]TheAbyssalInternet 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I used to be married to a "zinger"

Emphasis on the "used to be"

I still get enraged thinking about my time with her and all the times she felt like she needed to get a shot in at me, at any opportune moment. I'm glad you learned but my ex and I literally cannot speak to one another because she simply refuses to see she's wrong.

Her "zings" didn't just ruin our marriage. Her kids don't speak to her and her business failed because she drove away all her clients.

And the worst part? She was in therapy for years about it but her therapist was a fellow "zinger" and instead she simply became a best friend for rent.

[–]ScarletDarkstar 122 points123 points  (11 children)

I agree. The "here we go again" is heavy, and it isn't funny to turn a simple accident like dropped nails into "if your carelessness causes me injury ill be disappointed in you". 

Both are communicating poorly, but I think OP may be the more culpable in this case. Refusing to reply without an apology is refusing to have any conversation in which the partner's feelings are valid or a consideration. 

[–]tayvette1997 47 points48 points  (5 children)

a simple accident like dropped nails

What it seems like to me is he lost some nails, was stressed about it, and wanted to talk to her about it to hopefully help calm his nerves. That and to warn her not to go in the room with daughter until they found the nails.

However, instead of being compassionate and understanding, she immediately made it about herself (not even her daughter, it was about her) and added more stress to him.

[–]DixieWolf27 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I'm going to be honest: my partner and I make jokes like this (at one another's expense) all the time. The difference is we're both in on the joke.

She'll call me an utter pyromaniacal troglodyte for leaving the stove on after she's already shut it off.
I'll call her a club-footed oaf when she kicks a table and breaks a wine glass while we're both cleaning it up.

Humor, even at someone's expense, is a great way to destress and remove tension if everyone's in on the joke. If everyone isn't it's just bullying. And if you're veiling legitimate criticism behind humor to make yourself feel better, that just ain't healthy.

[–]Safe-Instance-3512 35 points36 points  (3 children)

This. I heard "Great, yet another thing you're disappointed in me about", in his shoes. I completely understand that sentiment. Right up there with "He can't do anything right".

[–]InevitableRhubarb232 21 points22 points  (2 children)

A double blow because he is trying to do one of his first activities of providing as a dad. And she replied by telling him he can’t even manage do redo a nursery, how tf is he gonna succeed at being a dad? That 100% is what this guy heard. And I’m not sure that’s not what OP meant.

[–]FunRich7101 965 points966 points  (76 children)

Agreed. I don’t think OP realizes their own tone and faults/flaws. Even in the messages I’m reading, they’re diminishing their partner’s feelings yet expecting theirs to be acknowledged. This is literally a mirror of both parties.

Like the first reply back to them was sooo bitchy: ”if you wanna deflect what I said by bringing up something else go for it but I’m not entertaining it.”

like how do you expect someone to respond to that if not in a defensive way? Immediately. It’s basically saying “what you feel is wrong, but think what you want because I don’t care…”

[–]bubblegum_stars 341 points342 points  (42 children)

Totally agree. I think in her head, that reply was her idea of calling something out and standing up for herself paired with the expectation that her partner not immediately react with their own feelings but instead address hers first.

The problem is, she absolutely started the problem by being critical and then labeling it a joke when it didn't land instead of just being honest and polite about her concern about the nails.

[–]Glum_Airline4017 224 points225 points  (35 children)

This. OP started the issue, refuses to see her part I. It, and is now acting like a victim. I can’t imagine how miserable she makes her partner with her BS.

[–]bubblegum_stars 66 points67 points  (1 child)

I think it's tiring, and she started this, but it's entirely possible they're struggling with communication as a team on both ends (it'd never occur to me to mock a partner, no matter what) and she stumbled upon some psychology words and videos and is making a feeble attempt at using them to fix things.

People usually fail with this kind if stuff before getting it right. Being self-aware is wildly threatening to most people, so it's not uncommon for people to unintentionally weaponize therapy speak before they get to actually working on themselves. OP seems receptive to the criticism, so that's promising.

Hopefully they can mend things and communicate better in the future.

[–]InevitableRhubarb232 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Or just… wearing appropriate shoes during a remodel.

[–]Plastic-Basis-3742 4 points5 points  (0 children)

😂😂I feel you. A+b =c

[–]Captain-Codfish 77 points78 points  (16 children)

I'd probably reply "if you want to go fuck yourself then go for it" then turn my phone off. Not only was the comment bitchy, but also dismissive and demeaning, as if the other person's feelings are worthless

[–]VeronicaMaassen 29 points30 points  (0 children)

That's probably not a good way to approach miscommunication. In fact, that would make it worse.

[–]PassionatePalmate 319 points320 points  (9 children)

Definitely veiled criticism.

Nobody is perfect. Obviously he didn’t mean to drop the nails. Being critical for the sake of it is frustrating for anyone.

[–]Dimonrn 89 points90 points  (1 child)

Right he communicated that he dropped some nails and couldnt find them out of care for her. Her response was not mature, it would have been better for her to say something like "Thanks for letting me know, ill try to be careful in the room. Could you please spend some extra effort to locate the nails though, I am worried about hurting myself". Her concern about injury is valid, but it was poorly handled.

[–]popchex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. I fucked up BAD a few weeks ago after being seriously sleep deprived for a week. (Result was that we lost a server with our billing on it.) I texted my husband to call because "It's a shitshow here, and I don't want you walking into it blind." He called, I told him about it, and he had the drive home to walk through the emotions. We've worked on fixing the problem together. At no point did he make this a me problem, except when we had to decide how much money we were willing to pay for it, since I'm the one whose work was lost/would have to redo it. (It was not worth it, and today and the next few days I get to spend all day redoing it all.)

I felt bad enough, if he had use my mistake against me, we'd have had bigger problems.

[–]Overall-Row-4793 61 points62 points  (0 children)

I hate when my boss tells me I made a mistake that I obviously know I made. If my partner was doing it I'd leave

[–]Shel_gold17 17 points18 points  (4 children)

You know it would’ve been a great response to I dropped some nails? “you know, I’ve been meaning to tell you how much I appreciate all the work you’re doing getting the nursery together. I’ll help you find the nails when I get a chance.”

[–]nickbishopondrums 12 points13 points  (2 children)

“You’ll nail it when you find them!” Is an equally bad joke but way different outcome

[–]Optimal-Vast2313 286 points287 points  (77 children)

OP OR and you didn’t ask but wow - she should have posted this in AITAH because she is .

Op - That wasn’t a “joke”. You were being passive aggressive with your partner because you didn’t trust him to pick up all the nails properly. Instead of just saying so, you avoided confrontation by making a “joke” - because you knew stating your feelings directly would make you look bad. You don’t seem mature enough to admit that to even yourself.

Your partner is sick of it. It’s annoying as f to be in a relationship with someone who can’t have a mature conversation about something.

Being passive aggressive is just another form of picking at your partner. The way you deflect and avoid responsibility when he calls you out is wild.

[–]Glum_Airline4017 122 points123 points  (45 children)

OP thinks that she can say whatever she wants then say “I’m joking” and all should be forgiven. Such trash.

[–]crystallsclear 14 points15 points  (30 children)

It’s a form of abuse. It’s insults disguised as “jokes”. Narcissists love it.

[–]crystallsclear 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Here you guys go, straight from google.

“Yes, insults disguised as jokes can be a form of verbal and emotional abuse. This tactic, sometimes called "weaponized joking," allows an abuser to inflict hurt while avoiding accountability. They can then blame the victim for being "too sensitive" or not having a sense of humor.

Genuine teasing is lighthearted and is meant to be shared in good fun between people who trust and respect each other. Both people should be laughing together, not one person laughing at the other's expense.

Abusive "joking" has a mean-spirited, belittling, or condescending undertone. It typically targets a person's insecurities and leaves the recipient feeling hurt, humiliated, or ashamed.”

[–]Optimal-Vast2313 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I tell anyone who tries to be passive aggressive with me, that’s I’m going to aggressive aggressive in response if they don’t knock it the F off. And I’ll only be that way one time, and then we won’t talk anymore. I cannot handle this type of person at all. I’m so glad my partner is not like this.

[–]RealisticAnxiety4330 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Yep my ex used to do that all the time, criticise me at every turn then when I would get upset it's "only a joke" and to "stop being so sensitive". It's like when people say no offense but and then they think whatever comes out of their mouths afterwards is fine because they said no offense. OP needs to think about what they're saying especially if their partner is doing things to help such as decorating a nursery. Also they need to think about how they speak to their partner in front of their daughter, because she will learn that behaviour too.

[–]cleverlywicked 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My other favorite is when someone says “with all due respect” because you know what follows will be anything but respectful!

[–]OneOfTheLocals 6 points7 points  (4 children)

This this this "YTA" for making him feel incompetent when he's up building something for your daughter first thing in the morning. The appropriate response is, "You're working really hard to get this ready for her, and it was rude of me to imply you're not competent enough to pick up a few nails. I'm sorry." And then he can say, "Thank you. I'm super tired but I want this to be nice for her. I'm sorry I called you annoying." The original texts read like teenagers fighting.

[–]Fit_Marketing2227 68 points69 points  (6 children)

Weaponising psychological terms!! Big. Fat. NO.

[–]Accomplished_Jello66 35 points36 points  (0 children)

100%. OP seems like a dick and to give the silent treatment and cannot apologize. Honestly triggered reading those messages; as if OPs hurt is bigger and they can say whatever

[–]xerxious 13 points14 points  (1 child)

My ex-wife pulled this exact same shit with me. Made a 'joke' that hurt my feelings, I responded in kind; was made to be the asshole, or I expressed how their words made me feel; my feelings were invalidated and was told to stop being a baby, "I was only joking. Geezzzz."

You two may wanna seek counseling if this is the norm.

[–]ArenBlut 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Agreed. And I think it's important they both work on these things ASAP because it will only get more stressful once the baby is born. It's important they have a rock solid foundation because those first few months with a newborn are trying..

[–]Sierra_0896 21 points22 points  (5 children)

This…. He’s in the nursery working while he’s off and you criticize him as a joke… men have their version of nesting too and it’s sweet that he’s being involved and not very kind to make him feel even more pressure.

[–]Neliel018 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. Imagine trying to do something nice for someone then someone finds something negative about it instead.

Think about this OP, instead of saying passive aggressive things like “if i find a nail in my foot” or whatever, try saying “Thank you for doing this. Don’t forget to check if you drop some nails later just to be safe.”

[–]greenm4ch1ne 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Get out of reddit with your balanced logic and empathy what are you human?!

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (10 children)

Thank you for the insight and your reply.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (1 child)

OP - did you apologize to your partner?

[–]JohnBeach2020 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The OP seems toxic. (Male or female)

[–]skillent 58 points59 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to know which one of you is more hurtful in your day to day lives. But it reads to me like he feels that you’re quick to dish out things that hurt him, but also quick to be hurt at things that come your way. Hard to know if he has a point or not. If he does, I’m sure you know somewhere in your heart of hearts. Maybe you can both work on being more pleasant to each other. I know it’s hard. There’s a lot of stress that comes with expecting a baby or having little children.

[–]Fuller1017 66 points67 points  (2 children)

Also sounds like he is saying that he understands being pregnant can make you hormonal but that is not an excuse for the continuing behavior. So that sounds like you have an accountability problem at times and pass off blame on being pregnant.

[–]FunRich7101 64 points65 points  (1 child)

She totally DOES have an accountability problem. It’s so obvious from her messages.

Read her first reply back to him.

Read all these comments. We’re not all crazy & wrong. It’s honestly what we’re seeing… we don’t know these people personally. She would benefit from taking in the constructive criticism she asked for and perhaps doing some therapy herself…

[–]Fuller1017 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I absolutely agree.

[–]NiceRat123 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Maybe then take ownership and apologize for your "joke' and have a conversation about invalidating feelings

[–]bmyst70 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Also doing all of this assuming and such over text is literally the worst possible medium for this. We have hardwired abilities to read emotions from all of the channels that text doesn't have. In their absence we fill it in from our own internal states.

Calling on the phone would have been a lot better than text and was wisely asked for and ignored.

My guess is OP would have been plainly seen as joking in person from body language to facial expression to voice tone. And she would have instantly known her partner was in no joking mood.

But her partner was stressing out and took OP's joke in the worst way. He then replied to that assumed tone, which in turn caused OP to assume hostility.

And they fed off each other until her partner couldn't deal with it anymore.

[–]Appropriate-Wing1588 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so beautifully well written and on the "nail"

[–]Only_Tip9560 741 points742 points  (37 children)

I think you need to take on board that jokes like the one you made come across as criticism to your partner and then go from there. He did try and raise it with you in what looked like a pretty respectful way and you basically escalated it.

[–]OhDestinedJuan 263 points264 points  (21 children)

This right here. OP made a mountain out of a molehill then comes to reddit for some affirmation. I've seen some childish posts on here but this takes the cake.

Poor baby daughter... born to these two.

[–]EverlyEverAfter 47 points48 points  (2 children)

You ain’t been on Reddit long enough if this takes the cake tbh 🤣

[–]arrrrjt 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Pretty crazy accusation off this post alone 😬

[–]Nice_Pianist_8656 150 points151 points  (0 children)

Yes, YOR. Your initial comment was unnecessary and idk, I don't get how it was a "joke" because I don't get how it's funny? But even if it was a joke, it came off mean spirited and it obviously made your partner feel like crap, which is why he responded saying you're annoying. Which, yeah, isn't the most mature way to respond, but I get the impression (from your post and comments here) that you place unfairly high expectations/double standards on your partner, and when that goes on for a while people's fuse can get shorter than it once was, and a mean spirited "joke" like that can lead to less mature reactions.

Then you got upset at being called annoying, which, ok, that's probably not nice to hear. But you seem to be glossing over the fact it was a reaction to your hurtful comment. And if you were doing that on the phone then it makes sense to me why your partner said "I'm not doing this this morning" and hung up before he lost his temper even worse. Him then texting you afterwards to try to express his feelings is him still trying to repair the rupture, in a way he feels is safer (I'm guessing) or possibly to have it written down for future reference (which can be a way to protect yourself and your grasp on reality if you are being gaslit. I'm not accusing you of gaslighting him, but it can certainly feel that way for people when you approach conflict like this and refuse to acknowledge your part in it, regardless of who is 'right' or 'wrong'. It also takes away the potential for you to talk over him, or yell, or whatever else, and is also more respectful of the fact you were at work & had said you had to get back to work.

So, I think your partner has made an effort here to try to repair this, to discuss it as calmly as he felt able to, in a way that was respectful of you, and you've shut him down, then started saying stuff like "here comes the guilt trip" and that you won't entertain the idea you hurt his feelings first and that's why he called you annoying, because you were being a bit of an asshole.

Like... How do you not see your role in this? It's legitimately concerning that you don't, it's indicative of emotional immaturity and narcissistic traits. To be clear: I am not saying you have the personality disorder. We all have traits that aren't great, we're human, and I don't know your history or anything else about you, and I'm not your psychiatrist (or anyone's) so I'm not going to slap a disorder label on you. But I do think you're being self absorbed, immature and unreasonable. Potentially even manipulative, and possibly unconsciously so.

That should be a big fkn deal to you if you care about how your actions make the people you love feel. And you should care how your actions make others feel, even when your own feelings are hurt, too.

If you're going to be a parent and you bring this kind of behaviour and attitude to the table you are going to cause harm to your child's emotional and psychological development. Surely you don't want that?

I don't know if you see a therapist, but it's never too late to start, if you don't. For your baby's sake if nothing else. The way you've handled this is more than a little unhinged, even if your feelings are hurt. You don't seem to care about your partner's feelings or perspective at all, and that's not a constructive way to handle conflict. It's intimacy destroying, it ends relationships, and it harms children.

[–]Regular-Talk-2742 271 points272 points  (14 children)

When you hurt his feelings, it was "just a joke." When he claps back and your feelings get hurt, he needs to validate your feelings?

Yup, you're the asshole and you're overreacting. Respect his feelings if you want him to respect yours.

[–]Samanthas_Stitching 834 points835 points  (80 children)

Your comment about the nail was unnecessary, and everything spiraled from there.

[–]PainUser1490 433 points434 points  (56 children)

There are few things more irritating from the male POV than being in the middle of performing an act of service for your partner while hearing them complain about the manner in which you're doing it.

It wasn't a joke. It's not funny. It's mean-spirited. Instead of accepting that and apologizing, she doubles down.

Imagine if OP were in the middle of cooking dinner and her partner made some offhand comment like "this meal better not make me sick". I bet you she would feel hurt, and her mood would sour on the spot. Yet she can't fathom when she does the exact same thing to her partner.

[–]yolobucketlist 100 points101 points  (0 children)

Imagine if OP were in the middle of cooking dinner and her partner made some offhand comment like "this meal better not make me sick". I bet you she would feel hurt, and her mood would sour on the spot.

I think that was a great way to give another example. While not her intention to be mean it can be really frustrating to be criticized while trying your best to build something and make something work.

[–]PolishedBalls1984 45 points46 points  (5 children)

Totally agree, it's part of the reason that my ex is my ex, though there were other issues this was the one that would get to me the most. I spent days deep cleaning the house while she was out of town, made sure everything was spotless and busted me ass doing it, just because I wanted her to be able to come home to a clean home and be able to relax after traveling. Her response was "it doesn't look like you vacuumed over there." Or the many times me and my best friend spent hours fixing her car just for her to criticize how long it took, or how it doesn't feel like it's running right, instead of thank you for spending your one day off sweating your balls off and looking like a greased up gear head just to make sure she didn't have to spend hundreds of dollars at a mechanic.

Needless to say, I eventually stopped doing those nice things because the lack of gratitude just made me feel like shit all of the time, like why waste my time if it's not even appreciated. In OPs scenario, just say thanks for working on the nursery, I really appreciate it, I'll help you find the missing nail, no big deal. But nope, just had to go and be an ass about it and then comes to Reddit hoping people will co-sign that type of behavior, but I'm glad they're not.

[–]WorldlinessHefty918 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I can totally relate to what you’re saying. I’m 77 now but in my younger years I Married at 20 had twins at 23. My husband immediately without discussion took over the money! Ten years and 3 kids later my husband came home from work ( I worked as well full time on nights in the ER) my house was always clean , my kids well cared for I was in short a very hard worker! So he comes home and says the house looks really nice but you didn’t take out the garbage!! That was the straw that broke the camels back we went to marriage counseling two years and the counselor would say Frank let’s just the start with taking out the trash. He refused! And of course it ewasn’t just about the trash it was an accumulation of things over the years. So I know what it means to be demeaned and disrespected!

[–]PainUser1490 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is exactly what I was talking about in another one of my comments. It's not just the lack of gratitude in OPs situation or in yours. It's the extra unnecessary rude remarks and nitpicking when you were going out of your way to do something for your partner (or your family, in OPs case)

No one is going to want to do favors for rude, unappreciative, or ungrateful people. People who nitpick you when you're doing something for their benefit are the worst!

[–]According_Tomato_699 88 points89 points  (12 children)

This isn't exclusive to men. I'm a woman, and my boyfriend has a bad habit of doing this with a lot of things, under the guise of giving advice. For example, when I'm cooking telling me I'm holding the onion wrong, or should peel away from myself not towards, or whatever the fuck. "If you cut yourself don't say I didn't warn you."

Like sir, I am making us dinner. If you have a problem with how I'm doing it, then you can do it yourself. If I cut myself, I'm an adult and I will live.

We're working on it.

[–]PainUser1490 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I don't discount what you're saying at all. I never intended to imply with my post that this isn't a pain point for women. Rather that I can only offer the male perspective.

I'm astonished that you continue to want to cook for him given his rudeness.

I've had partners do similar in the past. The 3 strike rule tends to help get my point across in a way that balances my own self-respect with patience for my partner in establishing boundaries.

First strike: "Thanks, but I've got it."

Second strike: "Again, I've got it. If you make another comment, I'm walking away, and you can take over."

Third strike: "I'm out. Do it yourself."

No one can claim you're overreacting when you've given two warnings, and they continue to overstep.

[–]ultrahedgehog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where are people getting the genders from? Multiple people seem to be assuming OP is a woman and their partner is a man but that isn't specified anywhere in the post

[–]flufflypuppies 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Agree! And when OP’s partner brought up that it hurt their feelings, instead of apologizing, OP is being defensive instead

[–]soulangelic 191 points192 points  (13 children)

You guys are both assholes to each other. All of this passive aggression isn’t the way to be, and you’re both going heavy on it. Jeez. I’m sure preparing for a baby is quite stressful, but you have to remember that you’re a team and you’re in it together.

FWIW, if I made a simple mistake on accident and my husband told me he was going to be disappointed in me for it, I’d probably be unhappy about it too. I’m pretty sure he was on the defensive the whole time in these texts because he felt like you were shaming him for something he didn’t mean to do.

[–]altagato 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And they both just sound stressed and slightly insufferable, as does everyone that is debating semantics and position instead of having this take above ...

I'm not one to shy away from discussion but like why is this happening over text, what is with all the PA responses and nitpicking and disregarding. 🥴🫤🙄😬😑😶‍🌫️ Was my reactions while reading... And I get being pregnant but why do both folks go into like full lawyer mode. It's so tedious and unnecessary on BOTH sides.

Y'all don't even sound like you like each other tbh.

[–]monkabee 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This comment needs to be the one on top - OP, your comment about getting a nail in your foot? Totally unnecessary, you are too quick to jump down your partner's throat for a simple mistake, and it doesn't sound like you have the kind of relationship where making a joke like that over a normal human error is standard interaction. Your partner then blew it by responding with a hurtful retort, instead of saying, "you know, that really hurt my feelings/was unnecessary." Now everyone is feeling unheard and unappreciated over an extremely minor mishap.

[–]Wandering_Uphill 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Everyone sucks here. You two need to get someone to help you communicate.

[–]Dazzling_End4638 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Please be adults and learn how to sit down and communicate. This is not it. You are both being mean and rude to each other and you both need to honesty grow tf up.

[–]LilBitofSunshine99 40 points41 points  (0 children)

YOR

I don't know you and I find you both annoying AND condescending.

Your "joke" wasn't funny at all. Especially not early in the morning.

It's funny that you complain about how he treats YOUR feelings when you seem completely dismissive of his feelings. You get what you give.

[–]aesparules 51 points52 points  (0 children)

YOR, where is YOUR apology?

[–]Rebellious-Banshee 106 points107 points  (3 children)

OP I have read your replies to other people in the community and it seems like you’re doing to them what you have done to your partner.

You have put it in a community you got feedback and now you are biting back ?

Interesting to say the least

[–]Echoing_Screams 33 points34 points  (1 child)

They straight up deleted after not getting what they wanted lol

[–]ChronicNightmare95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Interesting, but not at all surprising. This screams "I'm going to get people on reddit to say I'm right so I can shove it in his face later!"

[–]Extension_Eagle_8254 462 points463 points  (70 children)

Nah, OP is the jerk here. It’s rude to focus on a misplaced nail when he’s literally in there building your kid a crib and then he tried communicating pretty healthily and you just shut it down. The tonal whiplash from “I love you and I miss you” to “if you want to deflect…” in the very next text is crazy. He wasn’t deflecting, he was communicating how he felt and you went on the defensive because part of you knows he’s kinda right.

[–]StarboardSeat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There was absolutely no reason for her to include that first text, except in an attempt to manipulate us, to show how loving and sweet she normally is.

[–]IAmSchmutz 639 points640 points  (138 children)

Instead of saying you’d be disappointed if you stepped on a nail, it would’ve been better to say “I hope you find it before someone steps on it.”

[–]thelittlestdog23 292 points293 points  (37 children)

Or just don’t say anything about it. He obviously already knows he needs to find the nail. Unless he said “can’t find it, not going to keep looking” then there’s really no need for a comment on it at all.

[–]justlookbelow 228 points229 points  (2 children)

Partner was just venting something annoying that happened. OP should have said "ugh that's annoying, hope you find them soon". Honestly, I can see why partner was upset that OP invented a situation where they are the victim in response to a light vent.

[–]gather_them 10 points11 points  (0 children)

literally!! i would have been annoyed by this too tbh

[–]tvirelli 589 points590 points  (41 children)

Or, I don't know: "OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll help you look when I get home. I'm sure we can work together to find it."

[–]Organic-Commercial76 51 points52 points  (34 children)

That’s how my nesting partner and I handle it and we’ve got a very successful and mutually supportive relationship. We’ve had two “fights” in six years and both of them weren’t even fights. We both unintentionally hurt each other (not physically) and started to get heated at first but agreed to step away and circle back around when we both felt more rational. Which we did and resolved the situations.

[–]InevitableRhubarb232 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Once I told my husband I heard what he said but I was gonna take a minute and talk to him when I wasn’t feeling defensive and could have a more productive conversation about it and he got mad because “there was nothing to feel defensive about” and “if I was so mad I had to step away that means i was trying to be the victim.” 🙄

[–]Organic-Commercial76 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s fucking toxic and completely invalidated your feelings. Nobody should tolerate being treated like that.

[–]PolishedBalls1984 7 points8 points  (22 children)

Pardon my ignorance but what is a nesting partner?

[–]InevitableRhubarb232 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No. There’s absolutely no need to point out that they need to be found or what could happen. He already knows that. He doesn’t need her to micromanage it. He was calling hoping to hear “oh no. That sucks. I can help you look later if needed. Don’t worry. They will show up. I’ll be sure to wear shoes until then.“ And even better if she stops and Ace on her way home with a magnet on a stick present and helps him if he hasn’t found them all. (At least my husband would love one of those)!

[–]HotBrain849 45 points46 points  (2 children)

that’s not right either. It’s just a nail. Nobody is going to step on it just watch where you’re going or better yet just look for the damn nail

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

furthermore, OF COURSE HER HUSBAND IS LOOKING FOR IT. he wasn’t just gonna leave it there and he doesn’t need her to say anything about it. “oh your right honey, I was just gonna leave the nail somewhere in our infant daughters room”

I would have told her she’s being annoying too

[–]This-Draft797 72 points73 points  (3 children)

Did you apologise for your comment before demanding an apology for his? Think this is basic resentment building up and tbh you both need to stop and think and talk to each other better before it gets worse. I would also be annoyed at a passive aggressive comments about nails first thing in the morning if I’m building a nursery, but he needs to communicate better when you say something that upsets him

[–]codybevans 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Oh she doesn’t have to. She was just joking when she said it to him. /s

[–]Emotional_Elk_7242 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Good thing we’re asking these questions after conceiving with each other. Get counseling before your baby comes, they didn’t ask to have two parents who suck at communicating and treat each other like shit competitively.

[–]TastyBeeflette 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Yikes on bikes. If this is how you guys communicate and treat one another before baby arrives, I have some horrible news for you after the baby gets here. Take this x 10 with postpartum stress, chronic lack of sleep, zero personal time, and a screaming baby. 

[–]Phantomfox07 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Holy shit, you sound miserable as hell. Making an issue out of nothing that has happened. Kick rocks.

[–]Nekojita8 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Kick nails, more like! 😂

[–]Toothless-mom 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Your partner is right. They’re being a bit erratic in their responses, but if I was in their shoes, I think I’d feel the exact same. They’re building a nursery for your baby that’s coming, you’re not helping, and all you can say is you’ll be disappointed if you get a nail in your foot? Yeah no shit, anyone would be. And in case you forgot, your partner is actualy the one building the shit (again, without your help) and runs a larger risk of stepping on the lost nail than you, and I’m sure they’d be disappointed too. But that’s not what someone wants to hear in that moment. Maybe, “do you need help looking for it?” Or even a “be careful!” Your partners response to your antagonizing is valid, a joking “you’re annoying” partnered with an eye roll. You get all butthurt and insist it’s all about the word “annoying.” Seriously?! Just gonna ignore every other moment of that interaction that led up to it?! So you can dish it, but you can’t take it? And then you expect, as they said, a grand apology, and you won’t even try to recognize where you fucked up too? You’re both tired and on the way to becoming new parents, so its understandable how you got here, but it’s something you should both apologize for and move TF on. Yeah, YOR and YTA.

[–]tommiejo12 31 points32 points  (4 children)

You will be "disappointed".. what the actual fuck? Gross. You posted on here to find out if you’re overreacting. The comment section is clearly pointing out something you are responsible for, and what do you do? You argue with the comment section. I wish this relationship the best of luck.

it was a ridiculous, petty and unnecessary comment. Own it.

[–]ChronicNightmare95 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nah, I wish her partner the best of luck. He's going to need it.

[–]StarboardSeat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's why she dirty deleted.
Couldn't take the heat.

[–]kolmister 28 points29 points  (1 child)

God are you both fucking 12? Who let you 2 procreate, you’re both petty hypocrite children who guilt trip eachother you say “here comes the guilt trip” while literally guilt tripping him the text prior, please stop posting your relationship on Reddit and seek counseling for the sake of your child at this rate you guys will either hurt eachother or be split in less than half a year, you 2 speak to eachother like a divorced teenage couple

[–]Similar_Ad3132 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It would annoy me if I had just busted my ass doing something for us and you made a joke or not really a joke about the one thing that went wrong, before showing some gratitude or well done. And before people come at me BeCaUSe iTS hIs KiD- that’s fine but we can still be grateful for what our partners do. I expect my partners to make me coffee in the morning etc. I would still say thank you like, don’t be clowns on that point.

I think he’s right to have his back up, you immediately dismissed him by saying ‘yeah I said id be disappointed if it got in my foot’ because you immediately felt his reaction wasn’t valid, like he shouldn’t be annoyed at your joke. But he was. So accept that, validate it, apologise, say you do appreciate it and didn’t mean to come across as critical and move on.

[–]EldritchGumdrop[🍰] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He called you annoying because you’re being annoying. Hope this helps.

[–]Defiant-Secretary638 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It sounds like you were expecting him to consider your feelings and acknowledge that he hurt you but you didn’t even acknowledge that what you said first hurt/upset him first. You immediately got defensive and brushed it off as a joke. First, that comment wasn’t really necessary, and second, you should have stopped and listened to him instead of turning it around and making it about your feelings. Could he have responded to this differently? Absolutely. But honestly your comment would have pissed me off too.

[–]Ryebreadart 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Girl the comments are not on your side, stop being to defensive, egotistical and childish. Just take a deep breath and admit to your partner that you were wrong and apologize. Bet he’ll be shocked to hear it. You’re bringing a child into this world time to leave the petty teenage behavior behind

[–]Sleepy-Blonde 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Instead they deleted their account. They’re not going to learn or grow.

[–]marina_mari_ 46 points47 points  (2 children)

YOR, and you sound super exhausting. Your partner is building a crib for your child, misplaces a nail (literally not a big deal) and you start mocking them. They are probably tired or stressed and then you chime in sounding ungrateful.

[–]gn0xious 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Getting “you cheated on me in my dream and haven’t apologized yet” vibes.

[–]Careful-Bet-5745 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The question is, do you make little comments about things he does often? That might be the reason for him crashing out

[–]Keepit100style 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bro how you get mad cuz he joked back with you, even if he didn’t, you’re wrong lol yes you’re overreacting and it’s sounds like he’s done with your manipulation bs

[–]Mobile_Cranberry_575 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yikes. You both sound like you should be in a nursery rather than working on one. You have a child, grow up.

[–]DaxDislikesYou 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yes you suck. It's stressful enough assembling furniture with how badly made a lot of it is. Just let him alone to get the task done. You were being obnoxious and then got butthurt when your partner reacted. Stop being a jerk and then getting upset when your partner calls you on it. Annoying is incredibly mild and honest.

[–]throwawayyyy-768 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Honestly, neither of you should be speaking to each other this way. I feel that you sent that initial text without addressing something that happened previously which in turn puts your partner in a negative light without context.

I can understand his frustration. He’s building something with his two bare hands and all you had to say was, “oh and don’t forget XYZ make sure not to make a mistake.” It’s incredibly insulting. You then victimize yourself. Seems like all of the “here comes the attitude and insults” that you aimed at him actually stem from you.

You should self reflect rather than running to playing the victim when your mindless actions trigger a negative response.

[–]Hahafunnys3xnumber 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yeah, the intentional cropping of her completely unrelated and friendly message at the top annoyed me. We’re not falling for it girl.

[–]hellonameismyname 4 points5 points  (0 children)

wtf even is that message? Who texts their partner like that? It reads like a text you would send to an aquantaice or something

[–]Real_Collection_6399 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m with the partner here OP, something’s off with you.

[–]Zoey_Beaver 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Seems like you came at him, he called u annoying and now you’re harping on the fact he called you annoying when what you did sounds pretty…annoying. Total disregard for his feelings in the conversation.

[–]rbz90 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna be honest here. From these texts, it sounds like your partner has a point. You could have said ok I'll keep that in mind and even had the moral high ground if you so choose. Instead you decided to dig in. I get annoyed just reading how you guys text each other.

[–]paranormallor 12 points13 points  (0 children)

YOR - Why are your feelings hurt over being called annoying? You are annoying 🤷🏻‍♀️ You essentially belittled what he'd achieved by making a snarky comment. You definitely come off as if you think you're superior to your partner, and start using buzzwords against him instead of accepting that you'd fucked up.

Grow tf up, you're about to be a mother.

[–]Zestyclose_Limit984 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Really hoping you guys treat each other better when the baby arrives. Kid doesn't deserve to grow up around you two being immature children to each other.

[–]MelaninBunne 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tbh i see both sides but i get his. He dropped the nails by accident. I think for him, you saying you’ll be so “disappointed” is what triggered him.

[–]Competitive-Read242 5 points6 points  (1 child)

lowkey though if it’s carpet nails are easily hidden, and yeah that is something to be careful about, but i feel like there’s an argument being made for no reason. like, what are yall REALLY upset about because it’s not a hypothetical nail

[–]No-vem-ber 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I feel like the problem is that you're properly bothered by being called annoying, actually?

I feel like it's a fact of life that people will get annoyed by their partners and the people they live with.

I kind of feel like it's a sign of love if I can annoy someone and they can say to me "you're being annoying" and have that not escalate into a fight or anything. It's like they're saying "you're annoying me right now but I still love you and still want you around".

You made a jokey comment about the nail, I guess misjudging the vibe, and it annoyed him instead of making him laugh. I do think he should be able to say (not meanly!) "you're being annoying" and you should be able to go "shit sorry, just a dumb joke! let me help you get those nails".

[–]ShotAspect4930 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What you said was not a "joke". It was a criticism, and you know it. If you're going to try to therapy speak your partner, you have to follow your own little rules. You are completely invalidating how they feel, then complaining that they invalidate how you feel. You both have a communication issue, and yes you are overreacting. Learn how to speak to each other like adults that are comfortable sharing their feelings (you are PARTNERS after all), and don't try to pretend a criticism was a "joke". Start there.

[–]Complex-Bee-4920 18 points19 points  (1 child)

wow, you’re a passive aggressive asshole

[–]MyDirtyAlt79 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow, even in the comments pointing out that you hurt your partner first, you blow right past it, and downplay your culpability to focus on you.

Bravo on the absolute lack of accountability.

YOR, flat out apologize for your part in this, both for the original "joke" and dismissal of their feelings, and they should respond in kind.

[–]bizianka 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Both of you are assholes to each other. He was working on the nursery, and instead of being glad that work is in progress, you managed to critique it, presenting a hypothetical scenario of finding a nail in your foot. So now you are fighting over whose feelings are hurt first and whose the most.

[–]scrawfrd02 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn if I'm building a crip and lost a nail who gives af.. if my wife said anything other than thanks for doing that its awesome I'd be pissed. It means you probably always have something other to say than positive affirmations when he tries to do acts of service.

[–]SnooPeppers2596 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OP, I am not going to condemn your reaction bc I have been where you are. I am going to tell you some hard truths. There’s three ways to handle this & all future problems: 1) Go your separate ways now so you can coparent healthily, 2) Change nothing & raise child/ren in a seriously toxic environment, 3) Put your ego aside, recognize you two have toxic communication, and work toward being better. What this conversation should have looked like was this, “I recognize I made a joke that was hurtful. It was not my intent to hurt you & I am sorry I did.” It sucks that he in turn was hurtful, but you have to first address where the hurt started & expect nothing in return. Later, you can discuss better ways for him to address his hurt, but you can’t do that while apologizing bc it will negate your apology. For years, I did #2. My husband & I are now doing #3. It’s difficult, but our kids resent us both for how we have been handling things all these years. Do better for your kid/s.

[–]TropicalSkysPlants 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You sound pretty ugly and intolerable and like this dude probably walks on eggshells just so you wont be ugly pretty often. You should look at yourself, learn to communicate and apologize to your partner and let him know you appreciate the work hes doing. I hope you actually take all these comments into account and don't ignore them while you prance around on your high horse putting down others but more importantly putting down your actual partner in life....

[–]bingle-cowabungle 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Dude is manually building a nursery and probably didn't like that the only comment coming from you came off like veiled criticism instead of genuine concern for stepping on a nail

Edit: OP got negative feedback and instantly deleted her account, so take a wild guess how she's going to handle it with her husband lol i vote "doubling down"

[–]lemoncatie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

this is such a dumb argument. you're both annoying. what you said wasn't a joke and you're both being overly sensitive about actually nothing. if he hadn't found the nail just go look for it yourself, they make magnets for this exact thing. ESH.

[–]Throwawayaccxxxx_11 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You’re the asshole. He said his feelings that morning about your comment. He is not deflecting or being demeaning. You are toxic. Poor guy and daughter good luck to them cause you’re never thinking of anyone else acting the victim when you’re just hurting everyone else.

[–]alu2795 8 points9 points  (1 child)

You sound equally insufferable. And you most definitely are not “right” so please jump down from that high horse immediately.

You were a dick for making a lost nail that wasn’t about you, and was clearly a mistake, into an issue where there needn’t be one. You were annoying.

Then you were annoyed by being called annoying and tried to use some inaccurate and ineffective therapy speak to one-up your partner.

You both suck. I’m guessing it’s a high stress time right now. You both need to be kinder, more patient, and more team focused - it’s you two against the world. Never against each other.

It doesn’t matter in any way, at all, ever, to anyone, if you are “right”. Focusing on that is immature and a little pathetic. Focus on being a good partner and parent.

[–]DeliciousAd3692 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both of you are in the wrong. This seems like a petty argument. We all have them, just squash it.

[–]DistanceImpressive77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

JFC. I am so tired of seeing these misinterpreted text conversations written by 2 people who can’t seem to get on the same page with each other communication-wise that get blown out of proportion. The readers only get a brief snapshot of what the hell is going on in the relationship and then form uninformed opinions from this creating more confusion. PICK UP THE GODDAMN PHONE AND JUST CALL YOUR SPOUSE OR S.O., FOR CHRIST’S SAKE. Argue/debate it out like adults. Texting each other like fucking high school sophomores speaks volumes about the maturity of this couple and 90% of the BS posted here where people put up screenshots of their arguments says the same. So many people wonder why relationships/dating is “just so hard” these days. Wah wah wah. Here’s some free advice- deal with people face to face, or at least while speaking to them, not typing at them. I’m glad I actually possess the elementary social skills to walk out in public, meet people face to face and form relationships, find new friends, get dates, etc. These little “smart” boxes everyone carries around seemingly for survival are just self-imposed leashes.

Also, blocking people on your phone is 99% a chickenshit move. If someone won’t leave you alone, mute the notifications, and never respond. Let the other party drive themselves insane and burn themselves out spending all their energy on TEXTING someone relentlessly lol. Blocking someone is the equivalent of covering your eyes and telling the person standing in front of you that you have problems with, “I can’t see you; therefore, you don’t exist”. It also btw encourages more immature, irrational behavior from them, thus prolonging the agony of the situation.

[–]r_person 8 points9 points  (0 children)

YOR and you come across as an asshole. Belittling and condescending. Do better or start preparing to share custody.

Your partner here sounds like someone at the end of their tether. I get the vibe this is the tip of the iceberg. They won’t tolerate it forever. Communicate better and respect your partner. I feel sorry for the man bringing a child into the world and contending with you. You’ve been told countless times here in the comments, rather than arguing those too, maybe learn a lesson and do better? Some self reflection? Apologies?

Question, if you got the affirmation you came here looking for, would you have presented that to your partner to bolster your position? Will you now show him what people have said here? I very much doubt it.

[–]geoj88 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You’re both in the wrong here, OP. The nail comment wasn’t necessary - if I had made a simple mistake and WAS working towards correcting the mistake, I’d be unbelievably hurt if my partner made a joke that wasn’t necessarily a joke; but rather re-enforcing that I better correct my mistake that I was already working towards correcting. He was fixing the mistake. Why mock him more for it? It seems cruel. This now has him on the defensive which is illustrated in his messages. He wasn’t kind here, there’s no doubt of that, but neither were you. You can’t expect him to provide you an apology when you won’t either. You both hurt each other. When you hurt someone you love, even if not intentional, you apologize because why would you ever want to hurt someone you love. You both need to re-evaluate your relationship because this just seems childish.

[–]OhDestinedJuan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

OP is a narcissist.

[–]RelevantHighway9223 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sometimes what I have learned with my husband is to sometimes keep things to yourself that’s not positive. Your partner was building the baby crib which your partner might’ve never done before so he or she was probably figuring it out, frustrated with the many pieces, and tired. I totally get how you feel and you have every right, but that’s where I am still learning to try to be positive and bite tongue for certain things in the MOMENT. In your case your partner was building the crib so in that moment saying I’ll be disappointed may hurt him or her bc they don’t want to do that to you and they reacted the way they did by saying annoying because their probably frustrated with the task at hand.

I think apologizing and recognizing their feelings is good start and after that I think saying to your partner being called annoying also hurt and maybe your partner will apologize too. Communication is a huge key especially with little one arriving.

Good luck! If you do read my comment please don’t get up set about the comments on your post. You are pregnant and definitely do not want you stressed. Your baby should be top priority!

[–]PanickedAntics 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Seems like a really great environment to bring a baby into.

[–]UmbraNight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

imma assume youre both stressed out from the child and thats why this communication sucked so much ass. if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything. enough stress with a baby

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yall both lame

[–]No_Surround8946 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh wtf, I thought you were the person who dropped the nails.

Turns out, you’re the jerk in the text messages

[–]ihavebeefwithreddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You both are more concerned with being in the right/being heard than what your partner is saying/feeling. Seems like bad communication on both parts, I can imagine there is a lot of stress with a baby on the way. I think you both should go to couples counseling to work on communication and validation.

[–]Maleficent-Clerk8635 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ultimately, you were both being passive aggressive and hurtful. It would probably be helpful to work on ways to communicate concerns in a way that’s clear and respectful.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How about a good job thanks for sorting the nursery, did you even thank him?. I don't agree with how he is speaking to you but you technically pissed him off and now its spiralled.

[–]SnackxQueen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u both acting like 14y olds lol, don't let people gaslight u into thinking a joke warrants all that behavior from your partner but then again if u are doing this all the time then u might need to check urself

[–]Eltipofuerte 2 points3 points  (1 child)

90% of comments: YTA

OP: not i dont think so.
lol. why even ask?

[–]AdMedical9986 2 points3 points  (0 children)

its funny reading these comments OP is replying to people with the same shitty attitude she used towards her husband. Obviously this is who you are OP. Feel sorry for that man now trapped with you because of a upcoming child. Poor dude.

[–]cherrrykiwii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

he dropped a nail. everyone drops things. someone making a smart ass comment to me bright and early in the morning would probably get me to call them annoying too. you made a rude remark to him, he made a rude remark back, and you're expecting an apology without apologizing for snapping at him yourself. come on now

[–]SpaceCasei995 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don’t understand why either one of you think that it’s okay to talk to each other the way that you are. You are both avoiding accountability, defensive, and mean. You both overreacted and you need to work on your communication skills.

[–]Complex-Ganache-6332 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I wouldn't have taken that as a joke, even if you were laughing. As someone who just had a baby, and as a woman and watching my husband. There is alot of stress, especially if he's the one trying to set things up. Your joke will feel like your lying(and it does to me) and youre being serious with your statement. I've dealt with alot of people who makes these "jokes", and they are rarely jokes. Then, reading your text makes me more inclined to feel you were not joking. Yes, it's annoying and honestly bullshit. If my husband talks to me like I see in this text, I would have you sleeping on the sofa. You are very negative and coming off narcissistic. I don't care what anyone else says, I feel you're in the wrong.

[–]Thefattestbeagle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Op talks just like my ex and it made me happy im not longer with them "ugghh i guess IMMMM always the asshole huh, im sooo horrible?"

Ugh shut up, yes you are.

[–]mayor_of_silly_town 2 points3 points  (1 child)

u/[deleted] hahahaha

[–]grave_hearts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did they just straight up delete their account bc no one was on their side??

[–]Unicorn_Fruit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, you’re OR. Did your partner drop the nails on purpose so you’d step on them? The comment you made initially doesn’t come across as a “joke”, but more of a critique of your partner’s ability to do things properly and safely. Your partner overreacted by mimicking you. BUT you completely ignore how YOUR comment was received. Instead, you doubled down and took zero responsibility and accountability for the impact your words had. You didn’t ask, but YTAH.

[–]Spicyyy-Stew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yall need therapy to learn how to effectively communicate.

Your comment was unnecessary and a little mean. So it would be said that you started this. “Oops I hope you find them all” would have been nicer. He seems to feel you are unappreciative of what he does. You need to apologize first because he tried to raise the issue with you and you made it the disrespect Olympics.

Mocking you and him calling names is unacceptable too. “You are annoying.” “You are a dick.” Is not an acceptable way to speak to your partner.

If I’m honest, I’m less bothered by the way you texted him. Your comments are about the way he acted, his are a direct attack on who you are. If he had handled it in an emotionally regulated way, i think this would have been more constructive. However, YOU are the one who escalated.